November 16

November 16 Quotes of the day from previous years:


 * 2004
 * When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. ~ Jimi Hendrix
 * selected by Kalki


 * 2005
 * From each as they choose, to each as they are chosen. ~ Robert Nozick, (born 16 November 1938)
 * proposed by UDScott


 * 2006
 * We are at war between consciousness and nature, between the desire for permanence and the fact of flux. It is ourself against ourselves. ~ Alan Watts (died 16 November 1973)
 * proposed by UDScott


 * 2007
 * We must face problems which do not lend themselves to easy or quick or permanent solutions. And we must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent nor omniscient, that we are only six percent of the world's population, that we cannot impose our will upon the other ninety-four percent of mankind, that we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity, and that therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem. ~ John F. Kennedy, (Speech made on 16 November 1961)
 * proposed by Jeff Q


 * 2008
 * You will have what is good for you and I will have what is good for me. Let the kite perch and let the egret perch too. If one says no to the other, let his wing break. ~ Chinua Achebe (born 16 November 1930)
 * proposed by Ningauble


 * 2009
 * There is plenty of room at the top because very few people care to travel beyond the average route. And so most of us seem satisfied to remain within the confines of mediocrity. ~ Nnamdi Azikiwe
 * proposed by Zarbon


 * 2010
 * There will not be one kind of community existing and one kind of life led in utopia. Utopia will consist of utopias, of many different and divergent communities in which people lead different kinds of lives under different institutions. Some kinds of communities will be more attractive to most than others; communities will wax and wane. People will leave some for others or spend their whole lives in one. Utopia is a framework for utopias, a place where people are at liberty to join together voluntarily to pursue and attempt to realize their own vision of the good life in the ideal community but where no one can impose his own utopian vision upon others. ~ Robert Nozick
 * proposed by Kalki


 * 2011
 * Some anarchists have claimed not merely that we would be better off without a state, but that any state necessarily violates people's moral rights and hence is intrinsically immoral. Our starting point then, though nonpolitical, is by intention far from nonmoral. Moral philosophy sets the background for, and boundaries of, political philosophy. What persons may and may not do to one another limits what they may do through the apparatus of a state, or do to establish such an apparatus. ~ Robert Nozick
 * proposed by Kalki


 * 2012


 * proposed by Kalki


 * 2013


 * proposed by DanielTom


 * 2014


 * proposed by Kalki


 * 2015


 * proposed by Kalki


 * 2016


 * proposed by Kalki


 * 2017


 * proposed by Kalki


 * 2018


 * proposed by Kalki


 * 2019


 * proposed by Kalki


 * 2020


 * proposed by Kalki


 * 2021


 * proposed by Kalki


 * 2022


 * proposed by Kalki; stanzas of "To the Moon", in regard of the Artemis I lunar mission scheduled to launch early in the morning on this date.


 * 2023 : Rank or add further suggestions…

Suggestions
What if, on a crowded street, you look up and see something appear that should not, given what we know, be there. The person next to you is a warrior and the space that appears empty is a secret door to another world? You either dismiss it, or you accept that there is much more to the world than you think. Perhaps it really is a doorway to another place. If you choose to go inside you may find many unexpected things. ~ Shigeru Miyamoto (date of birth)
 * Quote found at: Miyamoto Shrine


 * 2 InvisibleSun 23:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 3 Kalki 09:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 2 Zarbon 06:33, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 3 bystander (talk) 06:01, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

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The real historical entity that is becoming imminent is the human soul. The monkey body has served to carry us to this moment of release, and it will always serve as a focus of self-image, but we are coming more and more to exist in a world made by the human imagination. ~ Terence McKenna
 * 3 Kalki 09:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC) Though McKenna often rambles with all manner of radical or trivial conjectures, and I find many of his pronouncements, like some by Timothy Leary, bizarre or irresponsible, I yet find there are also often kernels of significant truth and important ideas among them as well. I did not add him to the suggestions earlier today because I did not have time to fully scan much of my material on him, but want to have at least a few suggestions ready for next year.
 * 1 Zarbon 06:33, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

There is no dualism in the world of light. The conventions of relativity say that time slows down as one approaches the speed of light, but if one tries to imagine the point of view of a thing made of light, one must realize that what is never mentioned is that if one moves at the speed of light there is no time whatsoever. … One exists in eternity, one has become eternal … One is then apart from the moving image; one exists in the completion of eternity. ~ Terence McKenna
 * 3 Kalki 09:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC) with a VERY strong lean toward 4.
 * 1 Zarbon 06:33, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

No matter how old an individual may be, no matter if he is young or old, if he thinks in accordance with the times, he is immortal. ~ Nnamdi Azikiwe
 * 4 Zarbon 06:20, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 1 ♞☤☮♌︎Kalki ⚚⚓︎⊙☳☶⚡ 18:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC) 2 Kalki 17:34, 14 November 2008 (UTC) with a lean toward 2 or 3
 * 3 InvisibleSun 22:48, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 2 DanielTom (talk) 03:03, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Pray assign me any part in the government you please; but remember that no single man can bear the whole burden of Empire — I need a colleague, or perhaps several colleagues. ~ Tiberius
 * 3 Zarbon 06:28, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 1 Kalki 17:34, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 2 InvisibleSun 22:48, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Life is like a trumpet. If you don't put anything into it, you don't get anything out. ~ W. C. Handy
 * 3 Zarbon 06:28, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 2 Kalki 17:34, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 2 InvisibleSun 22:48, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

The real truth that dare not speak itself is that no one is in control, absolutely no one. This stuff is ruled by the equations of dynamics and chaos. There may be entities seeking control, but to seek control is to take enormous aggravation upon yourself. It's like trying to control a dream. ~ Terence McKenna
 * 3 Kalki 17:34, 14 November 2008 (UTC) with a very strong lean toward 4.
 * 2 Zarbon 03:10, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 2 InvisibleSun 22:48, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 3 bystander (talk) 06:01, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

We're playing with half a deck as long as we tolerate that the cardinals of government and science should dictate where human curiousity can legitimately send its attention and where it can not. ~ Terence McKenna
 * 3 Kalki 21:55, 14 November 2009 (UTC) with a lean toward 4, but would extend this to:
 * We're playing with half a deck as long as we tolerate that the cardinals of government and science should dictate where human curiousity can legitimately send its attention and where it can not. It's an essentially preposterous situation. It is essentially a civil rights issue, because what we're talking about here is the repression of a religious sensibility. In fact, not a religious sensibility, the religious sensibility. Not built on some con-game spun out by eunuchs, but based on the symbiotic relationship that was in place for our species for fifty thousand years before the advent of history, writing, priestcraft and propaganda.
 * We're playing with half a deck as long as we tolerate that the cardinals of government and science should dictate where human curiousity can legitimately send its attention and where it can not. It's an essentially preposterous situation. It is essentially a civil rights issue, because what we're talking about here is the repression of a religious sensibility. In fact, not a religious sensibility, the religious sensibility. Not built on some con-game spun out by eunuchs, but based on the symbiotic relationship that was in place for our species for fifty thousand years before the advent of history, writing, priestcraft and propaganda.

We are caged by our cultural programming. Culture is a mass hallucination, and when you step outside the mass hallucination you see it for what it's worth. ~ Terence McKenna
 * 3 Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 02:00, 2 November 2010 (UTC) with a lean toward 4.

We have to claim anarchy and realize that systems have a life of their own that is anti-humanist. There is definitely an anti-humanist tendency in all systems. ~ Terence McKenna
 * 3 Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 02:00, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

If the truth can be told so as to be understood, it will be believed. ~ Terence McKenna
 * 3 Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 02:00, 2 November 2010 (UTC) with a very strong lean toward 4.

Progress of human civilization in the area of defining human freedom is not made from the top down. No king, no parliment, no government ever extended to the people more rights than the people insisted upon. ~ Terence McKenna
 * 3 Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 20:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC) * 4 Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 02:00, 2 November 2010 (UTC) but still with a very strong lean toward 4 — preferring a few by Robert Nozick this year.

From each as they choose, to each as they are chosen. ~ Robert Nozick
 * 3 Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 20:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC) with a strong lean toward 4.

Our main conclusions about the state are that a minimal state, limited, to the narrow functions of protection against force, theft, fraud, enforcement of contracts, and so on, is justified, but any more extensive state will violate persons' rights not to be forced to do certain things, and is unjustified; and that the minimal state is inspiring as well as right. ~ Robert Nozick
 * 3 Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 20:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC) with a lean toward 4.

Individuals have rights and there are things no person or group may do to them (without violating their rights) ~ Robert Nozick
 * 3 Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 20:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Is there really someone who, searching for a group of wise and sensitive persons to regulate him for his own good, would choose that group of people that constitute the membership of both houses of Congress? ~ Robert Nozick
 * 3 Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 20:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

1. A person who acquires a holding in accordance with the principle of justice in acquisition is entitled to that holding. 2. A person who acquires a holding in accordance with the principle of justice in transfer, from someone else entitled to the holding, is entitled to the holding. 3. No one is entitled to a holding except by (repeated) applications of 1 and 2. ~ Robert Nozick
 * 3 Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 20:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Some communities will be abandoned, others will struggle along, others will split, others will flourish, gain members, and be duplicated elsewhere. Each community must win and hold the voluntary adherence of its members. No pattern is imposed on everyone, and the result will be one pattern if and only if everyone voluntarily chooses to live in accordance with that pattern of community. ~ Robert Nozick
 * 3 Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 20:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Though the framework is libertarian and laissez-faire,individual communities within it need not be, and perhaps no community within it will choose to be so. Thus, the characteristics of the framework need not pervade the individual communities. In this laissez-faire system it could turn out that though they are permitted, there are no actually functioning "capitalist" institutions; or that some communities have them and others don't or some communities have some of them, or what you will. ~ Robert Nozick
 * 3 Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 20:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Whatever arises from a just situation by just steps is itself just. ~ Robert Nozick
 * 3 Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 20:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC) with a lean toward 4.

Is not the minimal state, the framework for utopia, an inspiring vision? The minimal state treats us as inviolate individuals, who may not be used in certain ways by others as means or tools or instruments or resources; it treats us as persons having individual right with the dignity this constitutes. Treating us with respect by respecting our rights, it allows us, individually or with whom we please, to choose our life and to realize our ends and our conception of ourselves, insofar as we can, aided by the voluntary cooperation of other individuals possessing the same dignity. How dare any state or group of individuals do more? Or less? ~ Robert Nozick
 * 3 Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 20:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC) with a lean toward 4.

Some people steal from others, or defraud them, or enslave them, seizing their product and preventing them from living as they choose, or forcibly exclude others from competing in exchanges. None of these are permissible modes of transition from one situation to another. ~ Robert Nozick
 * 3 Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 20:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC) with a strong lean toward 4.

In a free system any large, popular, revolutionary movement should be able to bring about its ends by such a voluntary process. As more and more people see how it works more and more will wish to participate in or support it. And so it will grow, without being necessary to force everyone or a majority or anyone into the pattern. ~ Robert Nozick
 * 3 Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 20:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC) with a strong lean toward 4.


 * 3 ♞☤☮♌︎Kalki ⚚⚓︎⊙☳☶⚡ 19:44, 27 October 2014 (UTC) with a lean toward 4.

So often we need a whole lifetime in order to change our life, we think a great deal, weigh things up and vacillate, then we go back to the beginning, we think and think, we displace ourselves on the tracks of time with a circular movement, like those clouds of dust, dead leaves, debris, that have no strength for anything more, better by far that we should live in a land of hurricanes. ~ José Saramago
 * 3 DanielTom (talk) 20:19, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


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