Talk:American exceptionalism

Does Storey make any reference with this quote to American exceptionalism? If so can you prove it? --1.136.104.237 22:14, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Trimming POV-pushing See also section
The sock team uses article See also sections as a way to editorialize about the topic (Greed, Insanity) and also to direct attention to other articles where they have also been active. This makes it unnecessarily hard for a reader to find closely-related articles. I am trimming the list below to four items, which are italicized here. HouseOfChange (talk) 01:23, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * American benevolence
 * American imperialism
 * Arrogance
 * Conceit
 * Confessions of an Economic Hit Man
 * Corruption
 * Crimes against humanity
 * Decadence
 * Deception
 * Delusion
 * Egotism
 * Foreign policy of the United States
 * Genocide of indigenous peoples
 * Grandiose delusions
 * Greed
 * History of the United States
 * Imperialism
 * Insanity


 * International Criminal Court
 * Manifest Destiny
 * Mass shootings in the United States
 * Materialism
 * Mental health
 * Military-industrial complex
 * Narcissism
 * Oligarchy
 * Rule of law
 * Seven deadly sins
 * Totalitarianism
 * Tyranny
 * United States
 * United States Foreign Policy just a re-direct to Foreign policy of the United States
 * United States sanctions
 * War crimes
 * White supremacy

Quotes removed April 26
Three not very quotable pieces of editorializing from B section. One sourced to YouTube, not RS. The others by non-notable author. One editorializing for POV A, the others for POV not-A -- the point is that not one of these three is a notable, quotable statement illuminating American exceptionalism. HouseOfChange (talk) 01:42, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * We are different from other nations, I know professors, it drives them crazy to say American Exceptionalism - they hate that. The average length of a constitution in the history of the world is seventeen years. This year we're two hundred and thirty two years under the same constitution, so we are unique, we're the exception; not the rule.
 * David Barton, The Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special Ep. 57


 * In 2010, 80 percent of Americans polled by Gallup said the U.S. is the "greatest country" in the world. Of the 20 wealthy "democracies," the U.S. citizens were the most proud of their nationality and most supportive of attacking other countries without the U.N.'s consent. Younger generations were less likely to share these beliefs... So what is the reality? When we look at the indices of economic, social, health and even the level of "democracy," the U.S. comes out behind other countries... According to the World Health Organization (WHO), the U.S. comes in 31st for life expectancy. The World Bank found that for equitable distribution in wealth, the U.S. ranks 147 out of 152 countries. In December 2017, the UN Special Rapporteur for Extreme Poverty in the United States found that the U.S. has highest youth poverty rate across the 36 Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development countries....
 * American exceptionalism harms all of humanity, Longmont Times-Call Carolyn Bninski, (24 September 2018)


 * The UN Rapporteur also found that the U.S. ranks 36th in water and sanitation and has the highest incarceration rate in the world. What about education? The Programme for International Student Assessment found that U.S. students rank 38 out of 71 countries.
 * American exceptionalism harms all of humanity, Longmont Times-Call Carolyn Bninski, (24 September 2018)

In the G section, removed three "quotes" that don't even bother to mention American exceptionalism. Not clear why they are in this article, but the Hunziker quotes have been added to many, many different articles. HouseOfChange (talk) 01:48, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * It's ridiculous to say that Trump is a non-interventionist president, he's been as interventionist as all the rest and in the end, it's a state policy of the United States... a bipartisan policy... of US dominance around the world.... During Obama we had a coup in Honduras that was clearly backed by the United States... It was the Secretary of State Hilary Clinton that...played the key role in ensuring that (Hondura's) President Manuel Zelaya, who was deposed in that coup (2009), couldn't go back to his country.
 * Eva Golinger in Regime change is ‘state policy of US’: Fmr Chavez adviser weighs in on Venezuela crisis, RT News, (28 January 2019)


 * With regard to nuclear weapons, the situation is far more dangerous than the last Doomsday Clock report. New weapons systems under development are much more effectively dangerous. The Biden administration, expanding upon Trump’s confrontational approach, has Chomsky at a loss for words to describe the danger at hand. Only recently, Biden met with NATO leaders and instructed them to plan on two wars, China and Russia. According to Chomsky: “This is beyond insanity.” Not only that, the group is carrying out provocative acts when diplomacy is really needed. This is an extraordinarily dangerous situation.
 * A World of Total Illusion and Fantasy: Noam Chomsky on the Future of the Planet, Robert Hunziker, CounterPunch (12 July 2021)


 * According to Chomsky, the Doomsday Clock setting at 100 seconds to midnight is based upon: (1) global warming (2) nuclear war and (3) disinformation, or the collapse of any kind of rational discourse. As such, number three makes it impossible to deal with the first two major problems. Along those lines, within the Republican Party there’s virtually a disappearance of any pretense of rational discourse. Twenty-five (25%) percent of Republicans believe the government is run by an elite satanic group of pedophiles. Seventy percent (70%) of Republicans believe that the election was stolen. Only fifteen percent (15%) of Republicans believe that global warming is a serious problem. Therein lies an insurmountable problem to solving the main issues that continually tick the clock ever closer to a disaster scenario that will likely be unprecedented in the annals of warfare and environmental degradation.  As a result, Chomsky says: “We’re living in a world of total illusion and fantasy.... Unless this is dealt with soon, it’ll be impossible to deal with the two major issues within the time span that we have available, which is not very long.”
 * A World of Total Illusion and Fantasy: Noam Chomsky on the Future of the Planet, Robert Hunziker, CounterPunch (12 July 2021)

Removed an interesting Kennan quote because it is not about American exceptionalism. It exists in full at the George Kennan page, and I must say that the ellipses used here give a false sense of what Kennan is talking about as "this situation." HouseOfChange (talk) 01:55, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * We have about 50% of the world's wealth but only 6.3% of its population. ... In the face of this situation ... we should dispense with the aspiration to "be liked" or to be regarded as the repository of a high-minded international altruism. We should stop putting ourselves in the position of being our brothers' keeper and refrain from offering moral and ideological advice. We should cease to talk about vague and—for the Far East—unreal objectives such as human rights, the raising of the living standards, and democratization. The day is not far off when we are going to have to deal in straight power concepts. The less we are then hampered by idealistic slogans, the better.
 * George Kennan, "Memo PPS23", written 28 February 1948, declassified 17 June 1974

American imperialism may result in part from American exceptionalism, but they are not the same thing. Removed some quotes that editorializ about the former but say nothing about the latter. HouseOfChange (talk) 02:04, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

*The cry that we have entered upon our imperial course in order to benefit the native populations in the lands that we have conquered is an old one. ... I have before me McKinley's proclamation to the Filipinos, and I have placed it side by side with a proclamation of the King of Assyria, written eighteen hundred years before Christ. A man would think that McKinley had plagiarized the idea from Asshurbanipal. ... Each act of aggression, each new expedition of conquest is prefaced by a pronouncement containing a moral justification and an assurance to the victims of the imperial aggression that all is being done for their benefit.
 * Senator Richard F. Pettigrew, Imperial Washington (1922), pp. 345-347


 * From the dawn of history the oppressor has always insisted that oppression was good for the oppressed.
 * Moorfield Storey, "The duty of the United States towards the Philippine Islands: A reply to Secretary Taft" (1908), p. 3

Images removed April 26
I also removed some images, mostly used to promote off-topic quotes but the Cheney quote just too long and diffuse for an image caption. HouseOfChange (talk) 02:04, 27 April 2022 (UTC)