Talk:God

Yuri Gagarin
It wasn't Gagarin who said "I didn't see God up here.", it was Khrushchev. Gagarin was a Christian Orthodox. http://www.oodegr.com/english/epistimi/gagarin1.htm

Deleted Humanist statement
The following statement was deleted, probably because person who erased it simply did not like it, but it is an unattributed statement, and until an author or source can be declared, I will place it here on the talk page:
 * "The Humanist says he does not believe in God because the supposed God behaves in a morally arbitrary way: allowing innocents to die, scoundrels to live, some to have wealth, others to be poor, some to be in pain, and others to be healthy. This, they say, is morally arbitrary, and does not fit with how they think a real God would behave. Then THEY get to play God, by deciding on the fate of the unborn child: will they let it live or kill it. This, they insist, is their moral right. These two positions are completely contradictory, a thoroughly unreasonable philosophy for people who claim their philosophy is based entirely on reason."

Deletions of quotations or statements within articles should generally not be made without giving some reason for the removal. ~ Kalki 19:31, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Atheism-related quotes
Shouldn't those quotes which have more to do with atheism than God be merged with Atheism? Or is the standard that any quote that mentions God be considered relevant here? (Just asking. I honestly don't know.)  --Ardonik 20:57, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * This is probably a good idea, as it would minimze the flood of hostile comments that anti-religious zealots can be as prone to as religious ones often are about atheism, agnosticism, and other religions, but a link to Atheism should be prominent at the top of the page, and perhaps a page for agnosticism created as well. All of the related sites should probably have such a set of related links at the top. ~ Moby 21:11, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * That's a good idea; perhaps something like (a non-existent) Template:Religion could allow people to jump between pages? I don't think people will consider inserting a  template into the Atheism quotes page to be POV, will they?  --Ardonik 21:32, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Yeah seriously, This is an article about quotes dealing with God. I believe the atheism quotes should go there. But the most offensive is the houmorous quotes, (ironicly aren't funny). Expesicaly Nietche is God. That is terrible and even Nietche would be offended, for he didn't believe in God.---Seadog.M.S 23:25, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

One-word names
Who are "Sidney", "Hall", and "Franklin"? I'll try to research a little. Quintessent

Religion quotes
I get the feeling that some of these quotes would be better suited in Religion, but I don't feel that I have the authority to move them around. --KaiSeun 02:07, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I consider God to be a subset of religion. Having a page for God quotes reduces the clutter on the Religion(s) page.  My method for adding quotes is as follows:
 * if it is about God or mentions God it goes in the God article
 * if it is about religion or mentions religion it goes in the Religion article.
 * Now that I have enunciated my case it does seem to make sense! Alan Liefting 03:24, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Einstien
I removed the following quote: The first part of the quote seems to be fabricated completely, and the second is slightly out of context. What he actually said is available here: http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/einprayr.htm
 * I pity the man who says there isn't a Supreme Being [...] every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe. ~ Albert Einstein

210.89.149.89 08:35, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Massive cleanup
Three images were added to this once imageless page at a fairly large size, and without any context. I certainly promote the use of images in articles, but do believe they should generally be tied to specific quotes, as to make any implied relevance a bit more clear. I intended to reduce their size, and caption some quotes with which they might have mutual relevance, if I could find some, perhaps add a few others as well, and do much format cleanup.

I then found that these images added were only recently uploaded to Wikimedia Commons without essential source information. The character of the images make their licensing under GFDL or other free licenses rather dubious, and I have thus not used them but intend to use some similar images that are not slated for deletion.

I have thus far removed duplicated quotes, a quote by one author linked to a deleted vanity page, and a few quotes by "anonymous" or other unknowns, that appeared only on this page or in mirrors of WIkiquote in a Google search. I have not thoroughly tested all of the quotes that I don't recognize, but I have not otherwise removed any that might yet be dubious attributions or which might be disputed as perhaps only loosely relevant. I did correct the text or the comments about a few, added wikilinks, and a few quotes, and did some sourcing.

I will probably work on this page a bit more, later today or within the next few days, but right now I have to take a bit of a break and get at least a few personal tasks done before proceeding on to this and a few other Wikiquote tasks. ~ Kalki 13:51, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Lyrics
Am I way off here? Or are lyrics lyrics and quotations quotations? I've removed the following:


 * Just what God needs — one more victim. Why do we crucify ourselves?
 * Tori Amos in "Crucify" on Little Earthquakes (1992)


 * God, sometimes you just don't come through Do you need a woman to look after you?
 * Tori Amos in "God" on Under the Pink (1994)

I'm actually a HUGE fan myself, but it doesn't belong here. --dc —This unsigned comment is by 12:46, 17 January 2007 (talk • contribs) 12.110.49.81.


 * Lyrics are fine as quotes. The real question is whether these are quotes specifically about God, or whether they just mention God while making some other point. The first strikes me as only tangentially involving God in a statement (question) about destructive social expectations. The second is a harder call, apparently being a somewhat oblique criticism of God. Judging by the song's remaining lyrics, when she talks about 9-irons and 4-wheels, she sounds like she's talking more about either men in general or earth-bound religious figures, maybe male-dominated conservative society — I'm never quite sure with Tori. The amhiguity makes it feel insufficiently on-topic, to me at least. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:09, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Oneness of God
There's a long quotation from Ali about Oneness of God. Where should I add it. The foremost in religion is the acknowledgement of Him, the perfection of acknowledging Him is to testify Him, the perfection of testifying Him is to believe in His Oneness, the perfection of believing in His Oneness is to regard Him Pure, and the perfection of His purity is to deny Him attributes, because every attribute is a proof that it is different from that to which it is attributed and everything to which something is attributed is different from the attribute.

Thus whoever attaches attributes to Allah recognises His like, and who recognises His like regards Him two; and who regards Him two recognises parts for Him; and who recognises parts for Him mistook Him; and who mistook Him pointed at Him; and who pointed at Him admitted limitations for Him; and who admitted limitations for Him numbered Him.

Whoever said in what is He, held that He is contained; and whoever said on what is He held He is not on something else. He is a Being but not through phenomenon of coming into being. He exists but not from non-existence. He is with everything but not in physical nearness. He is different from everything but not in physical separation. He acts but without connotation of movements and instruments. He sees even when there is none to be looked at from among His creation. He is only One, such that there is none with whom He may keep company or whom He may miss in his absence. --Sa.vakilian 02:51, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


 * We try to keep quotes cited in Wikiquote pithy — short and powerful. Long quotes tend to detract from the focus on succinct, powerful, memorable statements. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 03:04, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Quotes... from God?
Why are Jesus' quotes listed but not God's? I found a few in there, and I apologize for not figuring out the system for finding them, but there needs to be separate articles for quotes about God and quotes from him directly.


 * "Let there be light."
 * "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."
 * "I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth. So make yourself an ark of cypress wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out. This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high.  Make a roof for it and finish the ark to within 18 inches of the top. Put a door in the side of the ark and make lower, middle and upper decks.  I am going to bring floodwaters on the earth to destroy all life under the heavens, every creature that has the breath of life in it. Everything on earth will perish.  But I will establish my covenant with you, and you will enter the ark—you and your sons and your wife and your sons' wives with you.   You are to bring into the ark two of all living creatures, male and female, to keep them alive with you.  Two of every kind of bird, of every kind of animal and of every kind of creature that moves along the ground will come to you to be kept alive.  You are to take every kind of food that is to be eaten and store it away as food for you and for them."

I'd be surprised if someone found some reason not to have one for him. 68.251.175.61 01:40, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Unsourced
There are quite a few wholly unsourced quotes on this page. Moving them here.


 * "Does God know he [exists]?" "Of course he does. Otherwise, you could not have asked the question, and I could not have answered."
 * Douglas Adams


 * When I observe into what inconsistent absurdities those persons run who make speculative, metaphysical religion a matter of importance, I am fully determined never to puzzle myself in the mazes of religious discussion, [and] to content myself with practicing the dictates of God and reason so far as I can judge for myself...
 * John Adams


 * Facts are the words of God, and we may heap them together endlessly, but they will teach us little or nothing till we place them in their true relations, and recognize the thought that binds them together.
 * Louis Agassiz


 * It is the job of prophets and scientists alike to proclaim the glories of God
 * Louis Agassiz


 * "We have one life; it soon will be past; what we do for God is all that will last."
 * Muhammad Ali


 * God will not place a burden on a man's shoulders knowing that he cannot carry it.
 * Muhammad Ali


 * God is not a limited individual who sits alone up in the clouds on a golden throne. God is pure Consciousness that dwells within everything. Understanding this truth, learn to accept and love everyone equally.
 * Amma


 * To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains premature today.
 * Isaac Asimov


 * In God alone, essence (what He is) and existence (that he is) coincide.
 * Avicenna


 * God alone is real, nothing matters but love for God.
 * Meher Baba


 * It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion; for while the mind of man looketh upon second causes scattered, it may sometimes rest in them, and go no further; but when it beholdeth the chain of them confederate, and linked together, it must needs fly to Providence and Deity.
 * Francis Bacon


 * There are two books laid before us to study, to prevent our falling into error; first, the volume of the Scriptures, which reveal the will of God; then the volume of the Creatures, which express His power.
 * Francis Bacon


 * The orthodox faith painted God as a revengeful being, and yet people talk about loving such a being.
 * P. T. Barnum


 * That men should live honestly, quietly, and comfortably together, it is needful that they should live under a sense of God's will, and in awe of the divine power, hoping to please God, and fearing to offend Him, by their behaviour respectively.
 * Isaac Barrow, teacher of Isaac Newton.


 * Stop telling God what to do with his dice.
 * Niels Bohr


 * When with bold telescopes I survey the old and newly discovered stars and planets, when with excellent microscopes I discern the unimitable subtility of nature's curious workmanship; and when, in a word, by the help of anatomical knives, and the light of chemical furnaces, I study the book of nature, I find myself oftentimes reduced to exclaim with the Psalmist, 'How manifold are Thy works, O Lord! In wisdom hast Thou made them all!
 * Sir Robert Boyle


 * An outlook through this peephole [that manned space flight had opened] at the vast mysteries of the universe should only confirm our belief in the certainty of its Creator. I find it as difficult to understand a scientist who does not acknowledge the presence of a superior rationality behind the existence of the universe as it is to comprehend a theologian who would deny the advances of science.
 * Wernher Von Braun


 * To the lexicographer, God is simply the word that comes next to go-cart
 * Samuel Butler


 * God is a metaphor for that which transcends all levels of intellectual thought. It's as simple as that.
 * Joseph Campbell


 * Well, you have to say yes to [Eternity], you have to say it's great this way. It's the way God intended it.
 * Joseph Campbell


 * At best, God can be viewed as nothing more than an uncaring incompetent father-figure.
 * George Carlin


 * Religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason.
 * George Carlin


 * Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! But He loves you. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing and all-wise, but somehow, just can't handle money!
 * George Carlin


 * Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God.
 * Chesterton


 * Nihil est, quod deus efficere non possit ("there is nothing that God cannot do").
 * Cicero


 * I don't believe in God, but I'm very interested in Her.
 * Arthur C. Clarke


 * Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God — but to create Him.
 * Arthur C. Clarke


 * I've steered clear of God. He was an incredible sadist.
 * John Collier


 * We spoke to God about the children, and we were afraid to ask God for specific things. We thought that it might be too much. So we said to God 'Please give us a healthy child' and left it at that, not knowing that God is a generous God, but also has a sense of humor. And if you leave that much open for God, some wonderful jokes are going to come about.
 * Bill Cosby


 * Realization of Happiness Itself Is Realization of God, Truth, or Reality Itself
 * Adi Da


 * I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose.
 * Clarence Darrow


 * I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created parasitic wasps with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of caterpillars.
 * Charles Darwin


 * Nothing is discovered without God's intention and assistance, and I suppose every new knowledge of His works that is conceded to man to be distinctly a revelation by which men are to guide themselves.
 * Charles Dickens


 * God made the world round so we would never be able to see too far down the road.
 * Isak Dinesen


 * I do not know whether there are gods, but there ought to be.
 * Diogenes of Sinope


 * With God, every moment is the moment of beginning again.
 * Catherine Doherty


 * God says do what you wish, but make the wrong choice and you will be tortured for eternity in hell. That, sir, is not free will. It would be akin to a man telling his girlfriend, 'Do what you wish, but if you choose to leave me, I will track you down and blow your brains out.' When a man says this we call him a psychopath and cry out for his imprisonment/execution. When a god says the same, we call him loving and build churches in his honor.
 * Computer programmer, -Chuck Easttom


 * Before God we are all equally wise — and equally foolish
 * Albert Einstein


 * I believe in Spinoza's God, Who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.
 * Albert Einstein (24 April 1929)


 * I cannot conceive of a personal God who would directly influence the actions of individuals, or would directly sit in judgment on creatures of his own creation. I cannot do this in spite of the fact that mechanistic causality has, to a certain extent, been placed in doubt by modern science. My religiosity consists in a humble admiration of the infinitely superior spirit that reveals itself in the little that we, with our weak and transitory understanding, can comprehend of reality. Morality is of the highest importance — but for us, not for God.
 * Albert Einstein


 * Quantum mechanics is certainly imposing. But an inner voice tells me that it is not yet the real thing. The theory says a lot, but does not really bring us any closer to the secret of the Old One. I, at any rate, am convinced that He does not throw dice.
 * Albert Einstein


 * The most beautiful experience we can have is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of true art and true science. Whoever does not know it and can no longer wonder, no longer marvel, is as good as dead, and his eyes are dimmed. It was the experience of mystery — even if mixed with fear — that engendered religion. A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, our perceptions of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which only in their most primitive forms are accessible to our minds: it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute true religiosity. In this sense, and only this sense, I am a deeply religious man.
 * Albert Einstein
 * Variant translation: The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed.


 * Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot; or he can, but does not want to... If he wants to, but cannot, he is impotent. If he can, but does not want to, he is wicked... If, as they say, God can abolish evil, and God really wants to do it, why is there evil in the world?... If he is unable to do either, then why call him 'God'?
 * Epicurus


 * If the gods listened to the prayers of men, all men would quickly have perished: for they are always praying for evil against one another.
 * Epicurus


 * When people expect God to plan their lives for them, and protect them, they tend to lose their motivation to guide and control their own lives.
 * Charles W. Faulkner


 * God heals, and the doctor takes the fee.
 * Benjamin Franklin


 * God helps those who help themselves.
 * Benjamin Franklin


 * Beer is proof God loves us. (misattributed)
 * Benjamin Franklin


 * If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is 'God is crying.' And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is 'Probably because of something you did.'
 * Jack Handey


 * Men rarely (if ever) managed to dream up a god superior to themselves. Most gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child.
 * Robert A. Heinlein


 * Faith must have adequate evidence, else it is mere superstition.
 * Alexander Hodge


 * Never tell a young person that something cannot be done. God may have been waiting for centuries for somebody ignorant enough of the impossibility to do that thing.
 * Dr. J.A. Holmes


 * All laws for the purpose of making man worship God, are born of the same spirit that kindled the fires of the auto da fe, and lovingly built the dungeons of the Inquisition. All laws defining and punishing blasphemy — making it a crime to give your honest ideas about the Bible, or to laugh at the ignorance of the ancient Jews, or to enjoy yourself on the Sabbath, or to give your opinion of Jehovah, were passed by impudent bigots, and should be at once repealed by honest men. An infinite God ought to be able to protect himself, without going in partnership with State Legislatures.
 * Robert Ingersoll


 * An honest God is the noblest work of man.
 * Robert Ingersoll


 * I do not believe in forgiveness as it is preached by the church. We do not need the forgiveness of God, but of each other and of ourselves.
 * Robert Ingersoll


 * I have made up my mind that if there is a God, he will be merciful to the merciful. Upon that rock I stand. That he will not torture the forgiving. Upon that rock I stand. That every man should be true to himself, and that there is no world, no star, in which honesty is a crime. Upon that rock I stand. The honest man, the good woman, the happy child, have nothing to fear, either in this world or the world to come. Upon that rock I stand.
 * Robert Ingersoll


 * The old doctrine that God wanted man to do something for him, and that he kept a watchful eye upon all the children of men; that he rewarded the virtuous and punished the wicked, is gradually fading from the mind. We know that some of the worst men have what the world calls success. We know that some of the best men lie upon the straw of failure. We know that honesty goes hungry, while larceny sits at the banquet. We know that the vicious have every physical comfort, while the virtuous are often clad in rags.
 * Robert Ingersoll


 * When gods quarrel, it is the mortals who suffer
 * Tatsuya Ishida|


 * It is easy to understand God as long as you don't try to explain him.
 * Joseph Joubert (1754-1824)


 * It is not God's will merely that we should be happy, but that we should make ourselves happy.
 * Immanuel Kant


 * Reason can never prove the existence of God.
 * Immanuel Kant


 * The wish to talk to God is absurd. We cannot talk to one we cannot comprehend — and we cannot comprehend God; we can only believe in Him. The uses of prayer are thus only subjective.
 * Immanuel Kant


 * I had the intention of becoming a theologian...but now I see how God is, by my endeavors, also glorified in astronomy, for 'the heavens declare the glory of God.'
 * Johannes Kepler


 * [God] is the kind Creator who brought forth nature out of nothing."
 * Johannes Kepler


 * "The Creator, the fountain of all wisdom, the approver of perpetual order, the eternal and superessential spring of geometry and harmonics."
 * Johannes Kepler


 * We say the name of God, but that is only out of habit.
 * Nikita Krushchev


 * God created the world and then created the devil, to blame for his mistakes.
 * Simon Le Bon


 * God is love, but get it in writing.
 * Gypsy Rose Lee


 * God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pains: it is His megaphone to rouse a deaf world.
 * C. S. Lewis


 * God will look to every soul like its first love because He is its first love.
 * C. S. Lewis


 * If God thinks this state of war in the universe a price worth paying for free will... then we may take it it is worth paying.
 * C. S. Lewis


 * I believe our limited minds are unable to grasp such a concept
 * Jared Leto


 * I'm not against God. I'm against the Misuse of God.
 * Marilyn Manson


 * When people ask what my beliefs are, I respond that if I try to explain I would get lost.
 * Edgar Mendez


 * God is a word to express, not our ideas, but the want of them.
 * John Stuart Mill


 * And God said, 'Let there be light' and there was light, but the Electricity Board said he would have to wait until Thursday to be connected.
 * Spike Milligan


 * Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man?
 * Friedrich Nietzsche


 * I cannot believe that God is a weak left-hander.
 * Wolfgang Pauli after hearing of experiments that violated parity conservation


 * I talk to God but the sky is empty.
 * Sylvia Plath


 * God, that checkroom of our dreams.
 * Jean Rostand


 * So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence.
 * Bertrand Russell


 * We must be greater than God, for we have to undo His injustice.
 * Jules Renard


 * God is absence. God is the solitude of man.
 * Jean-Paul Sartre


 * [God is] a force more powerful than mom and dad put together.
 * "Lisa Simpson" in The Simpsons


 * Get out of our schools God, get out of our textbooks God, get out of our government God, go away God, go away God, go away God, Katrina hits, God, where are you?
 * Brad Stine


 * I bring up God a lot in my show, know why? Because I miss him.
 * Brad Stine


 * It is an insult to God to believe in God. For on the one hand it is to suppose that he has perpetrated acts of incalculable cruelty. On the other hand, it is to suppose that he has perversely given his human creatures an instrument — their intellect — which must inevitably lead them, if they are dispassionate and honest, to deny his existence. It is tempting to conclude that if he exists, it is the atheists and agnostics that he loves best, among those with any pretensions to education. For they are the ones who have taken him most seriously.
 * Galen Strawson


 * Bondage and liberation are not antagonistic in love. For love is most free and at the same time most bound. If God were absolutely free there would be no creation. The infinite being has assumed unto himself the mystery of finitude. And in him who is love the finite and the infinite are made one.
 * Rabindranath Tagore


 * I believe in a spiritual world — not as anything separate from this world — but as its innermost truth. With the breath we draw we must always feel this truth, that we are living in God.
 * Rabindranath Tagore


 * Those who have everything but thee, my God, laugh at those who have nothing but thyself.
 * Rabindranath Tagore


 * The meaning of our self is not to be found in its separateness from God and others, but in the ceaseless realisation of yoga, of union.
 * Rabindranath Tagore


 * The self-expression of God is in the endless variety of creation; and our attitude toward the Infinite Being must also in its expression have a variety of individuality ceaseless and unending. Those sects which jealously build their boundaries with too rigid creeds excluding all spontaneous movement of the living spirit may hoard their theology but they kill religion.
 * Rabindranath Tagore


 * Your idol is shattered in the dust to prove that God's dust is greater than your idol.
 * Rabindranath Tagore


 * We cannot know whether we love God, although there may be strong reason for thinking so; but there can be no doubt about whether we love our neighbor or not. Be sure that, in proportion as you advance in fraternal charity, you are increasing your love of God.
 * Teresa of Avila


 * "Time is the brush of God, as he paints his masterpiece on the heart of humanity."
 * Ravi Zacharias

Unsourced "anonymous" quotes and proverbs

 * Call on God, but row away from the rocks.
 * English proverb


 * God does not love those who have not suffered.
 * Croatian Proverb


 * God is like a barber: don't expect him to give you a haircut, you must first get at his barbershop.
 * Anonymous.


 * God is beatiful. He loves beauty.
 * Muslim proverb


 * Trust in God but tie your camel.
 * Muslim proverb (possibly attributed in the Masnavi of Rumi).


 * If God lived on earth, people would break his windows.
 * Yiddish proverb


 * To make God laugh at you, tell him your plans.
 * Yiddish proverb


 * Black holes are where God is dividing by zero.
 * Anonymous.


 * God is real, unless you declare him an integer.
 * Anonymous.


 * Well you may throw your rock and hide your hand Workin' in the dark against your fellow man But as sure as God made black and white What's down in the dark will be brought to the light.
 * Anonymous, "God's Gonna Cut You Down", traditional folk song, recorded by many artists.


 * Go tell that long tongue liar Go and tell that midnight rider Tell the rambler, the gambler, the back biter Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down.
 * Anonymous "God's Gonna Cut You Down", traditional folk song

Atributed
Other quotation are sorted to sections =attributed= and =about=.

Why not here? Anyone against sorting out this ?
 * —previous unsigned comment by Donald ducke Anglosaxon (talk, contribs)
 * Yes, I'm against. This page, like pages about other mythological personae, is a topic/theme page, not a person page. ~ Robin Lionheart (talk) 12:58, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

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Marcus Aurelius quote

 * Perhaps an editor able to put the following quote on the protected/high security page will do so. I don't have the authority to.
 * Rememberest the gods, and that they wish not to be flattered, but wish all reasonable beings to be made like themselves
 * Marcus Aurelius, MeditationsBook X, 8 (c. AD 121–180) Best wishes, anon 97.64.219.134 00:36, 8 April 2023 (UTC)