Talk:Journalism/Archive 1

Who set up this page?
Who set up this page? Kind of hypocritical to quote people ranting on about absence of objective journalism, in a page with people going on about how much they hate journalism? Is it possible to get some positive stuff about the press to even it out?
 * Yes it is possible. But only if someone like you takes the time to do it. ~ Ningauble 15:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I put some work into the page and cleaned it up a bit. Cirt (talk) 01:58, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Unsourced, moved from quote page to talk page
Unsourced, moved from quote page to talk page. Cirt (talk) 23:45, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

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 * "Generally speaking, the best people nowadays go into journalism, the second best into business, the rubbish into politics and the shits into law."
 * Auberon Waugh


 * "Absolute truth is a very rare and dangerous commodity in the context of professional journalism."
 * Hunter S. Thompson


 * "I have spent half my life trying to get away from journalism, but I am still mired in it — a low trade and a habit worse than heroin, a strange seedy world full of misfits and drunkards and failures."
 * Hunter S. Thompson


 * "In journalism, there has always been a tension between getting it first and getting it right."
 * Ellen Goodman


 * "Most rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read."
 * Frank Zappa, 1978


 * "One young man asked, 'Professor Davies, how can a practicing journalist find time to write fiction?' 'Oh dear,' Davies replied. 'That question shows a great deal of innocence about journalism.'"
 * Robertson Davies, reported by Jim Tubman


 * "Some people will say that words like scum and rotten are wrong for Objective Journalism — which is true, but they miss the point. It was the built-in blind spots of the Objective rules and dogma that allowed Nixon to slither into the White House in the first place. He looked so good on paper that you could almost vote for him sight unseen. He seemed so all-American, so much like Horatio Alger, that he was able to slip through the cracks of Objective Journalism. You had to get Subjective to see Nixon clearly, and the shock of recognition was often painful."
 * Hunter S. Thompson


 * "You're miserable, edgy and tired. You're in the perfect mood for journalism."
 * Warren Ellis


 * "The difference between literature and journalism is that journalism is unreadable and literature is not read."
 * Oscar Wilde


 * "In America the President reigns for four years, and Journalism governs forever and ever."
 * Oscar Wilde


 * "The public have an insatiable curiosity to know everything. Except what is worth knowing. Journalism, conscious of this, and having tradesman-like habits, supplies their demands."
 * Oscar Wilde


 * "Its failings notwithstanding, there is much to be said in favor of journalism in that by giving us the opinion of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community."
 * Oscar Wilde


 * "Journalism is literature in a hurry."
 * Matthew Arnold


 * "Objective journalism and an opinion column are about as similar as the Bible and Playboy glossy."
 * Walter Cronkite


 * "If you can't say something nice about someone, become a journalist."
 * Bob Boze Bell (supposedly quoting his mother)

Poorly sourced, insufficient sourcing, missing page numbers
The quotes below were moved from the article to the talk page. They are either poorly sourced, insufficiently sourced, and/or missing page numbers. Cirt (talk) 00:12, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Quotes

 * "The press is just a bunch of rubbish anyway. So — you know — they never get a story right anyways, and it's always rumors and gossip and, um, over-sensationalized shit."
 * Christina Aguilera, interview in the Christina Aguilera: Music Box Biographical Collection


 * "Can't make out whether it is mere middleaged depression or whether it is really that I loathe journalism so much that it covers all my days with a dark cloud of shame."
 * Harold Nicolson's diary entry for 18 October 1930


 * Journalism (definition): The art, or science, of representing life as a series of clichés.
 * Richard Summerbell, Abnormally Happy, 1985


 * "So much for Objective Journalism. Don’t bother to look for it here—not under any byline of mine; or anyone else I can think of. With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms."
 * Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing: On the Campaign Trail '72


 * "Why bother with newspapers, if this is all they offer? Agnew was right. The press is a gang of cruel faggots. Journalism is not a profession or a trade. It is a cheap catch-all for fuckoffs and misfits— a false doorway to the backside of life, a filthy piss-ridden little hole nailed off by the building inspector, but just deep enough for a wino to curl up from the sidewalk and masturbate like a chimp in a zoo-cage."
 * Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas page 200 (1971)