Talk:Malabar rebellion/Archives/01

Censored quotes

 * Quotes added recently were not moved to talk. I am moving them here for  to save him this work, since he repeatedly refuses to do it despite being asked MANY times by many users.


 * But MonsterHunter32 still needs to give full reasoning (for each removed quote) on the talkpage.


 * All deleted quotes must at the very least be moved by him to the article talkpage with a note that they were removed from the article, giving full reasoning (for each removed quote), as required by Template:Remove.

Now you are again doing deliberate misrepresenations when you claim you have discussed the quotes. You have almost never yourself moved quotes to the talkpage with full reasoning as was asked dozens of time by mulitple users.

What I ask as a minimal first step from you is that you move all your deleted quotes to the article talkpages with a note that they were removed from the article, giving full reasoning.

This is a minimal first step that is required to enable the further discussion of the removed quotes, and that you have refused to do despite being asked so many times by multiple users. Until you do that, what you say are just poor excuses. You have failed to provide your reasoning for each deleted quote on the talkpage despite being told many times by many users. And in most cases you did not even move the censored quotes to the talkpage.


 * All quotes censored by MonsterHunter32 must at the very least be moved by him to the article talkpage with a note that they were removed from the article, giving full reasoning (for each removed quote), as required by Template:Remove. Otherwise, the status quo (uncensored) version should be kept.


 * As long as you refuse to even move the censored quotes to the article talkpage with a note that they were removed from the article, giving full reasoning, which was asked by many people many times, you are just giving poor excuses to avoid open discussion where other editors are also involved. --Jedi3 (talk) 08:47, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Here you see an overview with the current status (which does not even include all of the deleted quotes):

Deleted Quotes
−
 * Shortly after the worst of all riots between Muslims and Hindus, when the Mohammedans of Moplahs butchered hundreds of unarmed Hindus and offered their prepuces as a convenant to Allah, these same Moplahs were stricken with famine; whereupon Gandhi collected funds for them from all India, and (with no regard for the best precedents in matters of charity) forwarded every anna, without deduction for "overhead," to the starving enemy.
 * Will Durant, Our Oriental heritage


 * First please remove all your unrelated articles out of here if you are serious of discussion and finish \discussion at Somnath temple first. One quote at a time. MonsterHunter32 (talk)

See my comment which you deleted: https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MonsterHunter32&diff=prev&oldid=2376926

If you want to discuss the deleted quotes one at a time, then you also have to delete them one at a time. Remember what JARNY told to you "Explanations are needed to remove quotes. "

This discussion would not be necessary if you had followed what was asked to you by multiple users many times:
 * All quotes removed by User:MonsterHunter32 must always be moved by him to the article talkpage with a note that they were removed from the article, giving full reasoning (for each removed quote), as required by Template:Remove. Otherwise, the status quo (uncensored) version should be kept and/or restored. --Jedi3 (talk) 11:31, 29 March 2018 (UTC)


 * See my comment right above. Also please stop edit-warring instead of pretending discussion and abruptly stopping talk at all articles.' And remove your vandal attempt of bringing unrelated articles here. Cooperate first yourself if you want cooperation.MonsterHunter32 (talk) 12:04, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

IF you want one quote at a time then you also have to delete them one at a time. Remember what JARNY told to you "Explanations are needed to remove quotes. " The discussion about one of the quotes at Somnath needs outside views from other editors, which I have asked for, so let us wait for the outside views. IF you mean the second quote at Somnath, then you still need to provide your full reasoning on talk. --Jedi3 (talk) 12:08, 29 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I said before asking for cooperation, start cooperating yourself. Do as I have told you, remove all non-relevant material. Complete discussion at Somnath temole first . Discuss one quote at a time'MonsterHunter32 (talk) 12:18, 29 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I see no good reason for this quote not to be included on the page. Will Durant is perhaps one of the most respected historical writers, and there is no doubt that the quote is genuine. BD2412 T 22:50, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

MonsterHunter32's deletions
Due to the continued refusal of User:MonsterHunter32 to move deleted quotes to the talkpage with full reasoning, as was told to him by many users many times, I am copying them here in one place (they are all India-related), so that others interested in the same topic area can comment on it in one place.

He was warned many times by multiple users that per Template:Remove the following is valid and must be observed:


 * All deleted quotes must at the very least be moved by him to the article talkpage with a note that they were removed from the article, giving full reasoning (for each removed quote), as required by Template:Remove. Otherwise, the status quo (uncensored) version should be kept.

See Talk:India

He has done dozens of blankings of my additions, most of them without ANY discussion on the talkpage, without moving the censored quotes to talk, and with very poor excuses (like that he only needs to "explain" his mass-blanking of many quotes in the same edit in his edit summary). .He refuses to discuss to discuss his censorship on talk, and just continues edit-warring.

The deleted quote is from Will Durant who is already often quoted in other wikiquote articles like Napoleon, Aristotele, Democracy, Rome, and many more articles because he was a very gifted writer, his language is always very eloquent and to the point, exactly what we need here at wikiquote. The quote is also notable not just because it is very eloquently written, but also because it describes the riots as "the worst of all riots between Muslims and Hindus", and also summarizes not just the riots but also the aftermath and some of Gandhi's actions. --Jedi3 (talk) 19:53, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Jedi3 don't pretend and lie more about censorship and eloquent etc. We both know you only added it because it agreed with your view and now are making excuses of eloquence without understanding the guidelines that the quote must be notable and memorable, nor you even understand the definition of what is eloquent. Also please keep your problems to the articles in question, not where I've never made an edit like Talk:india. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 05:28, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Jedi3's disruptive edits
User:Jedi3 should stop disrupting. After baselessly blaming me again and agaim of censoring, even when i'm telling him just to add notable quotes, he doesn't listen. what I;ve been saying since begimnning is that for Jedi3 his views matter more, not improvement to the articles. This is a page about Malabar rebellion. not any other article. I suggest he only discuss his quotes about the Malabar rebellion. IOf he wants a discussion at an article, he should discuss about it. this talk page shouldn't be used as anpother distraction attempt to argue for other articles. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 10:26, 29 March 2018 (UTC)