Talk:Pope John Paul II

"Don't go to God for forgiveness of sins: come to me."
This is allegedly a quote originally printed in the The Los Angeles Times, December 12, 1984. Could somebody with a library that has copies of this newspaper check out this? The alleged quote abounds on the Internet. I found it here. __meco 10:52, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Answer:

Here is the proof:

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/675039382.html?dids=675039382:675039382&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&type=historic&date=Dec+12%2C+1984&author=DON+A+SCHANCHE&pub=Los+Angeles+Times+(1886-Current+File)&edition=&startpage=B11&desc=No+Forgiveness+%27Directly+From+God%2C%27+Pope+Says

If you want to read the whole article you have to pay but the abstract is enough to prove he really said it.

"Rebutting a belief widely shared by Protestants and a growing number of Roman Catholics, Pope John Paul II on Tuesday dismissed the "widespread idea that one can obtain forgiveness directly from God" and exhorted Catholics to confess more..."  [10 May 2009]


 * I have a photocopy directly from the Los Angeles Times article which was used to spread the out and out PHONY quote of John Paul II. No where in the article exists such a quote. So YES, it is a LIE. Friuli 20:09, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

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Socialism

 * "The historical experience of socialist countries has sadly demonstrated that collectivism does not do away with alienation but rather increases it, adding to it a lack of basic necessities and economic inefficiency." Centesimus Annus, 1991

Attitude

 * "Do not be afraid to open your heart to Jesus... I'm begging you, please do not be afraid."


 * Anything done for another is done for oneself.

I found this attributed "http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/cw/post.php?id=500" on a visit to croatia in 1994.
 * Do not abandon yourselves to despair. We are the Easter people and hallelujah is our song.


 * From now on it is only through a conscious choice and through a deliberate policy that humanity can survive.


 * Man always travels along precipices. His truest obligation is to keep his balance.


 * Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it.


 * Do not lose heart! The steeper the road the faster it rises toward ever wider horizons.


 * The future starts today, not tomorrow.


 * Darkness can only be scattered by light, hatred can only be conquered by love.


 * The worst prison would be a closed heart.
 * This statement is also attributed to others, including Tenzin Gyatso the current Dalai Lama.


 * When freedom does not have a purpose, when it does not wish to know anything about the rule of law engraved in the hearts of men and women, when it does not listen to the voice of conscience, it turns against humanity and society.


 * Where self-interest is suppressed, it is replaced by a burdensome system of bureaucratic control that dries up the wellspring of initiative and creativity.

Cultures

 * Modern Society will find no solution to the ecological problem unless it takes a serious look at its lifestyles.


 * Once again, through myself, the Church, in the words of the well-known declaration Nostra Aetate, "deplores the hatred, persecutions and displays of anti-Semitism directed against the Jews at any time and by anyone." I repeat, "By anyone." 


 * One discovers the common values of every culture, capable of uniting and not dividing.


 * Pervading nationalism imposes its dominion on man today in many different forms and with an aggressiveness that spares no one. The challenge that is already with us is the temptation to accept as true freedom what in reality is only a new form of slavery.


 * Radical changes in world politics leave America with a heightened responsibility to be, for the world, an example of a genuinely free, democratic, just and humane society.


 * The historical experience of socialist countries has sadly demonstrated that collectivism does not do away with alienation but rather increases it, adding to it a lack of basic necessities and economic inefficiency.


 * The Holy Land needs bridges, not walls.


 * Today, for the first time in history, a Bishop of Rome sets foot on English soil. This fair land, once a distant outpost of the pagan world, has become, through the preaching of the Gospel, a beloved and gifted portion of Christ's vineyard.


 * Where self-interest is suppressed, it is replaced by a burdensome system of bureaucratic control that dries up the wellspring of initiative and creativity.


 * Young people are threatened... by the evil use of advertising techniques that stimulate the natural inclination to avoid hard work by promising the immediate satisfaction of every desire.


 * Fidelity to roots does not mean a mechanical copying of the patterns of the past. Fidelity to roots is always creative, ready to descend into the depths, open to new challenges.


 * Young people of Ireland, I love you!
 * Like Saint Patrick, I have heard the call of the Irish.
 * Famous words of the Pope on his visit to Ireland in 1979.

Family

 * As the family goes, so goes the nation and so goes the whole world in which we live.


 * Marriage is an act of will that signifies and involves a mutual gift, which unites the spouses and binds them to their eventual souls, with whom they make up a sole family - a domestic church.


 * To maintain a joyful family requires much from both the parents and the children. Each member of the family has to become, in a special way, the servant of the others.


 * The fear of making permanent commitments can change the mutual love of husband and wife into two loves of self-two loves existing side by side, until they end in separation.


 * The great danger for family life, in the midst of any society whose idols are pleasure, comfort and independence, lies in the fact that people close their hearts and become selfish.

War

 * Humanity should question itself, once more, about the absurd and always unfair phenomenon of war, on whose stage of death and pain only remain standing the negotiating table that could and should have prevented it.


 * The United Nations organization has proclaimed 1979 as the Year of the Child. Are the children to receive the arms race from us as a necessary inheritance?


 * Social justice cannot be attained by violence. Violence kills what it intends to create!


 * Violence and war can never resolve the problems of men.
 * Variant: Violence and arms can never resolve the problems of men.


 * War is a defeat for humanity.


 * Wars generally do not resolve the problems for which they are fought and therefore... prove ultimately futile.


 * War should belong to the tragic past, to history: it should find no place on humanity's agenda for the future.

Priesthood

 * The vow of celibacy is a matter of keeping one's word to Christ and the Church. A duty and a proof of the priest's inner maturity; it is the expression of his personal dignity.


 * You are priests, not social or political leaders. Let us not be under the illusion that we are serving the Gospel through an exaggerated interest in the wide field of temporal problems.


 * I declare and ordain, by virtue of my apostolic authority, that the Church has no authority whatsoever to ordain women to the sacred orders and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church's faithful.

Work

 * Man matures through work, which inspires him to difficult good.


 * Work bears a particular mark of man and of humanity, the mark of a person operating within a community of persons.

Himself

 * I have a sweet tooth for song and music. This is my Polish sin.


 * I hope to have communion with the people, that is the most important thing.

Other

 * An excuse is worse and more terrible than a lie, for an excuse is a lie guarded.
 * Actually attributed to Alexander Pope, the English poet of the 18th Century
 * No, actually it appears to have been first written by Christopher Smart under the pseudonym Mrs. Mary Midnight in An Index to Mankind: or, Maxims Selected from the Wits of All Nations, appended to Volume III of The midwife: or, The old woman's magazine, 1 January 1753, as found on Google Books. It appears to be widely but incorrectly on the Web to both Alexander Pope—probably due to him be the author of the Preface—and Jonathan Swift—probably due to the inclusion of a chapter titled "Thoughts on various Subjects, by Mr. Pope" in a book titled The Works of the Rev. Jonathan Swift, D.D. --Hughh (talk) 21:21, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * God endowed [the human race] with capacity to attain to the inaccessible and invisible Supreme Good and behold it face to face.


 * Hands are the heart's landscape.


 * Have no fear of moving into the unknown. Simply step out fearlessly knowing that I am with you, therefore no harm can befall you; all is very, very well. Do this in complete faith and confidence.


 * I kiss the soil as if I placed a kiss on the hands of a mother, for the homeland is our earthly mother. I consider it my duty to be with my compatriots in this sublime and difficult moment.


 * It is not credible that any one should possess so little understanding as to desire the faith and yet be destitute of the most necessary faculty to enable him to receive it.


 * The question confronting the Church today is not any longer whether the man in the street can grasp a religious message, but how to employ the communications media so as to let him have the full impact of the Gospel message.


 * 'The truth is not always the same as the majority decision.


 * The Catholic Church cannot be an association of free-thinkers. CBN


 * We do not live, love, or die for practice.


 * We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has ever experienced. I do not think the wide circle of the American Society, or the wide circle of the Christian Community realise this fully. We are now facing the final confrontation between the Church and the antichurch, between the Gospel and the antigospel, between Christ and the antichrist. This confrontation lies within the plans of Divine Providence. It is, therefore, in God's Plan, and it must be a trial which the Church must take up, and face courageously.
 * Address at the Eucharistic Congress in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States, in 1976

The Bible itself speaks to us of the origin of the universe not in order to provide us with a scientific treatise, but in order to state the correct relationship of man with the God of the universe. The Bible tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go. - The Golden Rule of Biblical Exegesis

edit Dec 31, 2018 oldid 2522131
Hi fellow Wikipedians,

on the edit as in object it were added some relevant quotations given by: It seems that those two aforementioned sources can't not be diectly quoted in the Wiki article, due to an automatic "antispam" bot filter, I've met many times.
 * 1) Apostolic exhortation Familiaris Consortio on the role of the Christian family in the modern world, 22 November 1981, St Peter's Basilica. Readable at this link
 * 2) Address to the 18th International Congress of the Transplantation Society, 29 August 2000. At this link

Possibly, for this reason also the last quotation -given by the "Message of the Holy Father to the Youth of the World on the Occasion of the 15th World Youth Day, From the Vatican, 1999"- can't be directly linked to the related document. So it wasn't possible to adjust the quotation according to the Wikiquote's guideines.

It is a very strange website policy. Even if the document can be easily found on the web, any quotation must be immediately verifiable by any user from a reliable source of information, undoubtedly represented by the official Holy See website. I wish some who owns the rights to add this kind of non-promotional links, will provide to do so.

Maybe, that the same policy apply to the user login (or password recovery).