Talk:Stranger in a Strange Land

Miscellaneous quotes
I see that this page is organized by sections of the book. I have just added a Jubal Harshaw quote I've treasured for a while, but I don't know where in the book it occurs, nor did I record its context. I created the "Miscellaneous quotes" section so that "Stranger" fans can add such quotes, but I certainly wouldn't object to the organizers of this page moving these quotes to appropriate locations. &mdash; Jeff Q 00:24, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Merge from Transwiki:Jubal Harshaw
History:

This article was transwikied from Jubal Harshaw. Dmcdevit 08:15, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

The history of the article there was: * (cur) (last) 03:07, July 23, 2005 MakeRocketGoNow (recat) * (cur) (last) 07:33, April 9, 2005 WBardwin (moved paragraph/intro sentence to quotations.) * (cur) (last) 07:30, April 9, 2005 WBardwin (→Quotations - format.) * (cur) (last) 07:29, April 9, 2005 WBardwin (section/sequence.) * (cur) (last) 09:27, March 15, 2005 JamesMLane (Jubal --> Harshaw, other wording cleanups) * (cur) (last) 05:02, March 11, 2005 JubalHarshaw m (expanding entry) * (cur) (last) 20:27, March 10, 2005 Mailer diablo (&#123;&#123;Move to Wikiquote&#125;&#125;) * (cur) (last) 19:40, March 10, 2005 JubalHarshaw m (touchup) * (cur) (last) 19:32, March 10, 2005 JubalHarshaw (fleshing out the entry) * (cur) (last) 18:56, March 10, 2005 JubalHarshaw (stub for Jubal Harshaw, fictional sci-fi character)

History after transwiki:

* (cur) (last) 10:14, 7 August 2005 Dmcdevit (template) * (cur) (last) 10:13, 7 August 2005 Dmcdevit (transwikied from w:Jubal Harshaw)

Merged by me. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 08:14, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Some notes on the clean-up
I just finished a general clean up, and I'd like to note some things that I think future editors of this page might want to keep in mind.


 * BOLDING It's really not a good practice to bold only certain parts of a quote. I understand that the point is to emphasize a certain section of a longer quote, but if that's necessary, you should really consider just using the shorter quote.  When you bold something, you are usurping the writer's perogative to emphasize what he or she wants to have emphasized, and you thereby alter the quote.  This is the equivalent to imposing a point of view, which (as I understand it) is a WikiProject no-no.  (It's true that simply by selecting the quote you've exhibited a point of view, but that's really as far as it should go.)  When people in argumentation add emphasis to an existing quote, they're usually careful to note this in some way -- such as writing "emphasis added" at the end -- because it alerts the reader to the fact that the quoters POV is being asserted.  In this clean-up I've endeavored to remove all bolding.


 * UC and FE The only thing I've done is to put all of these into italics so they stand out from the rest of the text.


 * ILLUSTRATIONS I'm not sure what the WikiQuote policy is, but it seems to me that the illustrations here are borderline -- aren't they rather the illustrator's POV about the quote illustrated? In any event I've left them alone, but I would like to suggest that if you put in illustrations you try to space them so they don't cause a lot of white space to appear between quotes or sections.  It's not really necessary that the illustration be right next to the quote it's illustrating, especially if that mucks up the spacing.

I think that's about it. Oh, I cleaned up the formatting of the lede paragraph as well. Ed Fitzgerald 07:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Explanation of cherishing?
I really liked the concept of accepting, groking, and cherishing everything, from this book. Is this practice actually explained anywhere in a good quote, or is it just something mentioned in passing until you get it?


 * Not that I recall, though much time has passed since I read it. I think you just have to grok it. ~ Ningauble 18:31, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Adding citations to the Uncut edition
I was wanting to add page numbers, part & chapter numbers to this page. As a way to give a more complete cite to the Uncut Ace/Putnam 1991 edition.

After that is done successfully then to do the same with the cut edition. Here I would have to use one of the many published editions, specify which one I am giving pages numbers for, put then give the 'Part # and Chapter #' so that it would guide someone to the general location of the quote in their different edition.

I'm new here and very intimidated by all the technical details of how to do this correctly.

I've already printed out the quotes and begun to locate the quotes and write the 'chapter & verse' citation for them on my print out. The next step is of course putting this onto the wiki page.

I don't want to do that until I actually know what I am doing! GJaron 20:09, 10 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Your efforts to improve the page are very welcome — I had been meaning to do cleanup myself on it for some time, but have had other priorities. I would suggest using the double asterisks to format interlinear notations when adding the various page numbers — as the parentheses used around (UC) and (FE) designations in creating this page were just an initial experiment, and I believe more expansive interlinear formatting would probably look better overall. ~ ♞☮♌Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 20:17, 10 January 2012 (UTC) + tweak

I did like the use of (UC)since then I could give the publisher and date of publication only once when the designation is introduced. Then each quote with have something like this " UC Chap # Part # p. #". GJaron 00:27, 12 January 2012 (UTC)