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Notable Wikipedia people and research on Wikipedia usage
I noticed that the category Wikipedia people only has only four people in it: Sue Gardner, Andrew Lih, Steven Pruitt and Jimmy Wales. Is that it, or are there other Wikipedia people that would meet the standards of notability and quotability for inclusion on Wikiquote? I very rarely see Wikipedia editors give interviews and when they do it seems to be more often than not to be attributed to their username, with the editor citing concerns for their safety should they lose their anonymity. I was hoping one of the Wikipedia editors who has done interviews might have gone into detail about why they have those safety concerns, because if Wikipedia is truly as dangerous as some of the editors make it sound, than it's bizarre that that it's accessed by so many school age children and no one seems to care they could be in danger were they to become editors. The Surgeon General didn't specifically mention Wikipedia when discussing the health effects of childhood social media usage, but it is still a form of social media, so I'm wondering what research is there concerning Wikipedia in particular in connection to issues like cyberbullying or addictive behavior. My hypothesis is that the well-known Wikipedia gender gap might have something to do with a casual acceptance of cyberbullying, or alternatively that there is for some reason a pervasive false impression of dangerousness that scares away many potential new editors, seeing as there is much less of a gender difference in either academia or in publishing. Other more popular social media websites do not seem to have this problem, Youtube doesn't have a noticeable gender difference and you have much less privacy being on camera than writing, and people post photos of themselves and discuss politically sensitive topics on Facebook but they don't have a noticeable gender difference. CensoredScribe (talk) 15:07, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Responding to your first sentence, there are lots of notable people who have no WQ article. I created the WQ article for Steven Pruitt after I stumbled on some interesting quotes by him. HouseOfChange (talk) 20:22, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It seems all of the Wikipedia people with pages go by their real names; introductory text is hard to write for anonymous pseudonyms, take the page for Banksy for example. CensoredScribe (talk) 00:25, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

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Language links
How can languages be added to the language list? The French page of Albert Camus can be found by clicking 45 more at the end of the languages list and then Français but logically it should be in the default list. Mcljlm (talk) 14:39, 28 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure how it was done, but checking our Albert Camus today, I see Français on the default language list. HouseOfChange (talk) 13:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia and dating websites
I was wondering if anyone here has ever mentioned their editing of Wikis when using dating websites and their reasoning as to why or why not. If no one here uses dating websites that would also be an interesting fact to know about our community as to how we feel about other online communities. It may seem like it's a question that has nothing to do with improving the Wiki, but considering the low number of active users and the importance of membership drives I think it's a valid maintenance question, and not just one of research and criticism. CensoredScribe (talk) 03:29, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand that most people here do not edit under their real names and that doxing is taken very seriously, which is one of the things that differentiates Wikis from other forms of social media where it is often an expectation that people post pictures of themselves. Bragging about how good you are at your job or your hobby isn't particularly attractive behavior on a first date, however secrecy and a refusal to answer any questions someone might have about how you spend your time is also very disconcerting. Not everyone uses dating websites, however enough people do that even in a fairly small group of people you would expect at least a quarter of the population to have some experience using them, so if nobody who edits Wikis uses dating websites than that suggests a unique trend which may be connected to Wikipedia's noticeable gender gap. Not a lot of people use social media in the hopes of obtaining greater levels of social isolation, it's one thing not to make any new friends on a website but it's another when it actively interferes with making them anywhere else as well. In my case I don't think many people are interested in talking about abortion activism on a first date, but if they ask what you do as a job or hobby they are not going to like being told that they ask too many questions or being answered with riddles. What we all do here may feel inconsequential at times and like it's not worth mentioning, but I think most people would have a hard time arguing it doesn't make at least a small difference in someone's life being able to more readily access information on topics that they feel are important, whatever those topics may be. Just thought I would mention this in case anyone else has had experiences that sound similar, or has any interest in the gender gap Wikipedia points out in advertisements and tries to address with campaigns like #SheSaid. CensoredScribe (talk) 14:48, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * How is your question connected to Wikiquote which is what this page is intended for? Mcljlm (talk) 14:46, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't know what all of the objectives of #SheSaid are, but considering #SheSaid's advertisements are displayed at the top of all of the pages for three months out of the year, I would say that the answer to your question is all of them. What pages, do you think, aren't edited by women? CensoredScribe (talk) 02:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Quoting the intro to this page: "This is the place if you (a) have a question about Wikiquote and how it works or (b) a suggestion for improving Wikiquote." HouseOfChange (talk) 15:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Wikiedu.org mentions improving Wiki Data in addition to Wikipedia, so how about one of the administrators here asks that they mention Wikiquote? We could use their help just as much as Wikipedia, and unlike Wikipedia's summaries, the direct quotations we've collected can be used as references, which is of more help to students. Seeing real people's faces and not just their screen names helps to improve Wikipedia's public image, making it look safer for new people to use. CensoredScribe (talk) 21:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * This page is not intended for efforts to start a chat about random topics with little relation to improving Wikiquote. HouseOfChange (talk) 13:09, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't consider a gender gap or a race gap to be random topics with no relation to improving Wikiquote HoC, if no X gender or Y ethnicity are editing Wikiquote that looks bad to the press. You have made less than two thousand edits, you may well be the administrator with the quickest rise to power, and it shows. CensoredScribe (talk) 02:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

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New Category
I'd like to create a category for people who have been awarded of the Compasso d'Oro (presumably "Category:Compasso d'Oro winners", by the logic of established practice here on Wikiquote). As I'm still not fully familiar with the ins and out of this wiki, I thought it best to ask for guidence. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 13:57, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * We already have the scheme at Category:People by award, so in principle, this is a perfectly fine approach. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 11:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Quotes in context
Lots of political in-groups talk about quote fragments among themselves without knowing the original context of such fragments. When possible, let's make those fragments available in their wider context. Also, when quotes about some politician criticize the person for having said XX, let's have the WQ article include the original XX quote in its context. I'm motivated by recent publicity given a "snippet" of a quote by Joe Biden (made in a private phone call with donors) to claim he urged Trump's assassination, but there are plenty of other examples. HouseOfChange (talk) 11:17, 15 July 2024 (UTC)


 * It is certainly true that entirely factual quotations can be sliced and diced or presented in a way that is very disingenuous and misleading. When I add quotations, I always make sure to at least contextualize it by place and time if I can and then any other additional situational information that makes it clear why something was being said and why it's worthy of quotation. This is subjective, but so is selective quotation with no context. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 11:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * You make an excellent point that situational information, e.g. place and time, are important to determine what meaning was intended. Going back to my example, if Biden wanted to issue a call for Trump's assassination, a private phone call with some donors would be an unlikely place for it. HouseOfChange (talk) 14:39, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Wikimedia Movement Charter ratification voting results

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Hello everyone,

After carefully tallying both individual and affiliate votes, the Charter Electoral Commission is pleased to announce the final results of the Wikimedia Movement Charter voting.

As communicated by the Charter Electoral Commission, we reached the quorum for both Affiliate and individual votes by the time the vote closed on July 9, 23:59 UTC. We thank all 2,451 individuals and 129 Affiliate representatives who voted in the ratification process. Your votes and comments are invaluable for the future steps in Movement Strategy.

The final results of the Wikimedia Movement Charter ratification voting held between 25 June and 9 July 2024 are as follows:

Individual vote:

Out of 2,451 individuals who voted as of July 9 23:59 (UTC), 2,446 have been accepted as valid votes. Among these, 1,710 voted “yes”; 623 voted “no”; and 113 selected “–” (neutral). Because the neutral votes don’t count towards the total number of votes cast, 73.30% voted to approve the Charter (1710/2333), while 26.70% voted to reject the Charter (623/2333).

Affiliates vote:

Out of 129 Affiliates designated voters who voted as of July 9 23:59 (UTC), 129 votes are confirmed as valid votes. Among these, 93 voted “yes”; 18 voted “no”; and 18 selected “–” (neutral). Because the neutral votes don’t count towards the total number of votes cast, 83.78% voted to approve the Charter (93/111), while 16.22% voted to reject the Charter (18/111).

Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation:

The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees voted not to ratify the proposed Charter during their special Board meeting on July 8, 2024. The Chair of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees, Nataliia Tymkiv, shared the result of the vote, the resolution, meeting minutes and proposed next steps.

With this, the Wikimedia Movement Charter in its current revision is not ratified.

We thank you for your participation in this important moment in our movement’s governance.

The Charter Electoral Commission,

Abhinav619, Borschts, Iwuala Lucy, Tochiprecious, Der-Wir-Ing

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