Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Barney & Friends

There is a majority to delete, but many of the votes were cast before the recent massive trim and creation of the sub-page. I therefore propose to keep both pages but semi-protect the main one indefinitely. Any admin may of course remove the semi-protect.-- Poetlister 22:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Barney & Friends
I'm sure this will be contentious since this is a very large page and one that is almost constantly edited, but I fail to find anything remotely memorable on the page. — UDScott 13:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Vote closes: 14:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC) 14:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Vote extended because of recent actions to reduce quotes. - InvisibleSun 17:46, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. ~ UDScott 13:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Copyvio/vandalism magnet with NOTHING profound to offer. BD2412 T 13:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete (and salt); a tsunami of mediocrity. Cheers, User:Jack Merridew aka David   15:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per all of the above. It's unlikely that the obsessive contributors to this article could be dissuaded from copyvio edits. - InvisibleSun 18:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep if semiprotected and kept trimmed for length and number of quotes. - InvisibleSun 18:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete with reluctance because it is a very popular page, but there are no worthwhile quotes.--Cato 22:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I see that editors keep making minor amendments to quotes, such as changing people's names. Is there any way of verifying whether this is a correction or an error or if both versions are wrong?--Cato 09:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete and I normally wouldn't suggest deletion of any shows, but the quotes for this one aren't worthwhile to keep just for the sake of keeping. Zarbon 20:51, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete It's a show for young children and it's scarcely surprising that little strikes an adult as memorable quotes. The editors don't understand our ways; I've just restored the VfD notice and I see that's not the first time it was removed.  We'll have to salt it if it's deleted.-- Poetlister  14:34, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep It can't do any harm to have this article, and I hate to think of all those upset children when they find it gone. If there's a complaint about copyvio, we'll delete it then.--Yehudi 12:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep While personally I would love to delete and salt Barney, plus have any memories of that show removed from my head with hypnosis, at the very least the page should be kept as a stub or needing improvement. It's too important an Icon for children's television to not have a Wikiquote entry - not despite of the mediocrity of the quotations, but because of that mediocrity.Hutch1970 22:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If kept, it should be slashed down to a single page of meaningful quotes. Right now we have what look like transcripts of entire scenes. Not to mention the twenty or so variations of "(after the song 'I Love You') Bye Barney." BD2412 T 22:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Will {{sup|{talk)}} 00:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. ~ User:anabate We won't need it anymore. Today :
 * KEEP!: I cannot say that I have always been known for my generosity or good cheer, but my heart has also grown a few sizes from what it was, and I believe it might be a good idea for others to try to enlarge theirs a bit as well. The page is surely one few adults will want to bother with, but why should the interests of the children be entirely excluded? I hold that it should remain, even if it must be trimmed, semi-protected so anonymous IPs can't do the editing (which seem to be what the vast majority of activity on it has been the past), and perhaps even limited to a very few quotes or even just some of the famous lyrics from the theme song, (which don't seem to appear to be on it at this point). If it is simply deleted merely because it is a bother, people might well say that there are bunch of small-hearted grinches here, who have out-grinched the grinch! I am voting to keep it, if only in a severely trimmed and protected form, and will volunteer to do the trimming, if it can be agreed that it should be kept and protected or semi-protected. ~ The Grinch 19:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I propose this vote be extended, because I have just done a radical edit: cutting out all of the episode formatted quotes, leaving just the VERY famous and widely quoted theme song, and a few quotes about the show directed at adult sensibilities. I think a few of the quotes from the shows could be re-added under primarily character based headings,and will try to do some of that, if given a few days. Though I can't claim I am any fan of the show, I believe that such radical restructuring, along with my earlier suggestions of making it a protected or semi-protected page are far preferable to deleting the page entirely, and these proposals have not had much time to be considered at this point. ~ The Grinch 03:54, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * PLEASE HELP! I would like to plead with the members of this group to please keep this section open for just one more month so I can figure out how to mirror or duplicate this web page.  My son is 11 and severely autistic with minimal abilities to communicate.  He discovered this page last year and by using the "speech" function on his apple computer (to have the computer read aloud the words) he has discovered how to communicate with us.  This page, because it contains scripts from the TV show he loves, has been a powerful motivator for him to learn how to type, spell, and communicate using his computer.  This past year he has finally started typing to tell us his thoughts and feelings.  Its has been the breakthrough we have waited and worked so hard for.  Of course I realize that is not what wikiquote is for, but it was an accidental discovery for us that has brought my child so much.  Please if you can keep the pages up for just one more month I will work furiously to take this "offline" so that his learning and development can continue.  I hope you will consider my plea -- you have no idea now important it is.  Please!  (if anyone can help me figure out how to duplicate this B&F quote website so he can keep using it to learn, please let me know!!  I don't know what we will do without it, and i'd be so sad if he gave up typing to communicate... we'd lose so much of him)
 * Please keep.... further to my post above (re: my son with autism) I wanted to make sure I signed in so my acct is displayed, if any of you want to contact me.User:danielsmom
 * Can you please restore the page the way it was?!? with the episode listings/quotes. There are so many people who say its "not remotely memorable", or "has nothing profound to offer".  This page (as it was before the radical edit) is very important to some of us -- can those users that find it tedious simply attend to other pages of interest and let those who find joy (and learning) in the mundane continue happily?  Why erase someone else's joy because its too boring or beneath you?
 * Comment See the talk page.  Cbrown1023   talk   17:52, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - with a proviso - only provided quotes are worked on and improved! Modernist 14:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment If kept, it will need indefinite semi-protection and monitoring. Despite all the trimming, one edit  swelled it from 24k to 119k!-- Poetlister  22:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Though not very interested in Barney myself, I have again made some radical edits to Barney & Friends, in an effort to placate delicate adult sensibilities, or any hostilities to the overabundance of the saccharine on the page, but I too also suggest that the page be permanently protected or semi-protected in somethng close to its present radically cut state so that it has a chance of surviving its Vfd nomination, and not being nominated again. If there is agreement to it, a sub-page Barney & Friends/Episodes could remain here, as a haven for children's interest in editing, or it might possibly be moved to the Simple English Wikiquote, where it might be more welcome, or at least less unwelcome. ~ The Grinch 15:14, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hearty congratulations to The Grinch. I really can't see that we should delete it now, though we may need to semi-protect.  Of course, the problem may just shift to the new page!  Is danielsmom happy?  Odd that it isn't on the Simple English one already.--Yehudi 17:40, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Comment from danielsmom: Can we keep the subpage for the detailed episode quotes? and semiprotect the main page? I think that would be a lovely middle ground. I hope that works for everyone!
 * Comment: Some of the Barney fans here seem to have concluded that we want trimming or deletion because of the quality of the quotes. Our first and certainly most important concern is to avoid copyright violation.  When we trim quotes for that reason, we then make decisions based on quality and quantity in order to decide what needs cutting.  - InvisibleSun 18:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)