Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Chris Collison

Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 15:04, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Chris Collison
Notability contested. The first revision was posted at 22:02, 26 February 2005 by, this article is his or her sole contribution. Since then no one has expanded it. There is a consultant with around 10K Ghits, and amazon.com gives us only this book whose co-author he is. I don't think the quoted saying something impressive, but people could have other opinions.--Aphaia 08:38, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Vote closed: Result: Move quote to Knowledge and Management, delete Chris Collison. Consensus is that this quote does belong in a theme article but its author does not need his own article. Owing to GFDL issues I will credit on the talk pages after moving. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 15:04, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep Sufficiently notable; properly sourced.--Cato 16:38, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: The quoted book is currently ranked #217,924 on Amazon.com, so while it's not a bestseller, it's not really obscure, either. (Most vanity-press and other obviously obscure works I've seen seem to rank in the millions.) I also found copies of the second edition (2004) at 10 branches of one of my local libraries and at the Library of Congress as well. It does seem to be Collison's only established work, and there's the additional complication of having a co-author, making it hard to say it's his quote specifically. While I was at it, I verified the quote using Amazon Online Reader. It's totally accurate. Part of me would hate to see such a well-structured, well-cited, accurate effort go to waste. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 17:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Thank you for your research, Jeff, always. I have been not sure if we could simply call it "vanity", and you assert me to some extent. One thing which has made confused was, perhaps the sourcing issue: how we can attribute a quote from co-authored book? (btw, it is always an argument if you cite from Marx-Engels-Werke). If the book is his sole work, and it is difficult to distinguish how they shared works, it could even be better to move it "& " or "book-name"? Just a thought. --Aphaia 18:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You've pointed out my exact discomfort. I'm not happy about having an article titled "Chris Collison and Geoff Parcell", especially if it's only going to include material from one book. I'm also not comfortable with moving this to a book article titled Learning to Fly - Practical Knowledge Management from Leading and Learning Organizations, not only because it's horribly long, but also because the book isn't so prominent that it sounds like it should have its own article. It'd be hard to shorten it, as there are many better-known books and other creative works called Learning to Fly (just check out the Wikipedia disambiguation article for a small subset of them). On top of that, we've only got one quote, so could we expect to get more? About the only thing I can think of that doesn't push the envelope or cause problems (like keeping the author article when the only quote is co-authored) is to copy the quote (with editor credit!) to one or more appropriate theme articles and delete this article. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 00:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Move quote to theme article(s) and delete. Having seen no suggestions to resolve the above dilemmas, I favor moving the quote (with proper credit to 213.78.132.162 and Rmhermen in the edit summary) to Knowledge and Management, then deleting this awkward article. My main problem is the inability to credit this quote specifically to Collison and not his/her co-author. While this is not a unique problem (per Aphaia's allusion to Marx-Engels-Werke), this work doesn't seem to be well-known enough to encourage the community to devote resources to untangling the problem. But I'm open to other suggestions. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 12:09, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge, per Jeffq's suggestion, with Knowledge and Management, followed by deletion of page. - InvisibleSun 15:39, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Move quote & delete, per Jeffq. ~ UDScott 13:19, 4 June 2007 (UTC)