Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Derek Abbott


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: KEEP. The entry is clearly within the mission of the project, and no overriding special issues (such as copyright vio or BLP concerns), so the decision is based on the weight of opinions in the discussion. Reviewing the discussion, the keep comments persuade that the person meets the threshold of notability based on his career as a scientist. And the discussion shows that the quotes are republished on a website that most people commenting think is a reliable source for WQ to use to determine that there is enough of an interest in his ideas for WQ to republish them. The weakness of the specific quotes is less a factor since this comes down to a matter of personal preference of the people commenting. FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 12:46, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Derek Abbott
All quotes on the page are from primary sources (affiliated with the subject himself) and nonreliable sources. — Cirt (talk) 09:26, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Vote closes: 10:00, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. As nom. Cirt (talk) 09:26, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Firstly, the subject is a notable scientist. Secondly, the source is not Abbott's own website; it is a reputable site independent of him.  Thirdly, it is quoting "an invited opinion piece to be published in the Proceedings of the IEEE", one of the world's leading technical journals.--Ole.Holm 12:26, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you please provide some sources to back up these above claims? Cirt (talk) 12:31, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Who is behind Physorg.com Status of IEE journals  Wikipedia article on IEEE Can you please provide some sources to back up your claim that the site is affiliated with the subject himself?--Ole.Holm 13:01, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I removed it from the page already. Cirt (talk) 13:07, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * www.physorg.com's own comments about physorg.com are not really the best source for this... Cirt (talk) 13:08, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Unless they are blatant liars, they are not affiliated with the subject himself. What is the evidence that they are?--Ole.Holm 13:10, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I did not say they were affiliated with the subject, merely that it is not the best source to establish notable quotes. Cirt (talk) 13:11, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * "All quotes on the page are from primary sources (affiliated with the subject himself) and nonreliable sources". I leave it to other editors to assess the reliability of the sources.--Ole.Holm 13:18, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Right. It appears from their site that anyone can register and log in. Is there any editorial oversight? Or can anyone post to it? Cirt (talk) 13:27, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Registering gives you no right to post to it. --Ole.Holm 15:53, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep: A notable scientist and engineer with his own long standing Wikipedia page, with clearly interesting and widely published insights on many issues. If some of the material is from a site affiliated with him, that seems reliable enough as a source for quotes by him. ~ Kalki (talk &middot; contributions) 15:44, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: Pointless, spam, fails manuel of style, poorly written, unwanted page, does not have any notable or memorial quotes and finally it violates our Limit of Quotes and Blocking Policy.(StarWarsFanBoy 18:34, 22 November 2009 (UTC))
 * Keep. The subject, who is notable, is quoted from an interview which appeared in a notable news website. - InvisibleSun 02:41, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Derek Abbott has inspiring views. I think other quotes will come. I added two. The solar power quotes should be re-sourced after publication of the IEEE Proceedings Keeping the energy debate clean: How do we supply the world's energy needs? unsigned vote by Arjen Dijksman
 * The quotes are from a news interview, not from the paper mentioned therein. ~ Ningauble 15:52, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak delete No doubt the professor is notable, but I am underwhelmed by the selected quotes. The quotes from his university profile are ordinary, unremarkable expressions of commonplace advice. The quotes from an e-zine interview chatting up a forthcoming paper do not seem notable either. Despite the inclusion of a pop culture reference, I don't see the point of documenting his positions from a puff piece. My vote is only weak because I recognize some contributors see more value in quoting newsy bits that I do. ~ Ningauble 15:52, 4 December 2009 (UTC)