Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Dr. Leigh-Davis


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: delete and salt. BD2412 T 22:09, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Dr. Leigh-Davis
Not sufficiently notable. An article with the same name was deleted at Wikipedia. Evidence that it may be a hoax was presented, but it may only be an inept attempt at promotion. (prod contested by multiple single-purpose accounts.) — Ningauble 13:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Vote closes: 14:00, 15 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete as nom. ~ Ningauble 13:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. I removed one quote, "I believe in me!", because it is not original to this author (Google Books has hits for this quote going back to the 1920s); the remaining quote is not particularly quoteable. BD2412 T 17:20, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I recommend that we also salt the page, as the hoax page has repeatedly been recreated on Wikipedia, and is now salted there. BD2412 T 20:44, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree, we should salt it. Whether the absurd conduct on-wiki and the plethora of non-credible sites and press releases indicates someone is getting very misguided publicity advice, or whether this an attempt to defame by making the subject appear ridiculous, either way, it is an aggressive campaign that calls for preventative measures. ~ Ningauble 16:05, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * DO NOT Delete 8 September 2010
 * DO NOT Delete. I have a copy of the original printing of this book, and I have read it repeatedly. In fact, I recall, when I purchased it, I had bought extra copies to give as gifts to others.  Calling this a hoax is illegitimate.  All you have to do is: get off the internet, and then turn on the TV or radio to see Dr. Leigh-Davis.  Moreover, TV and radio pays a lot more than internet productions.  Lastly, Wikiquote DOES NOT require quotes only be attributable to one person.  As far as I know, Dr. Leigh-Davis is the only person with a trademark and merchandise with the quotes "I believe in me!" |BD2412  T 8 September 2010 (UTC)  (Impersonation struck by Ningauble.)
 * Really? What is the trademark registration number? I am sure you would not want to publicly commit the federal crime of trademark counterfeiting by making a fraudulent claim of trademark ownership, so please back up that trademark claim. Cheers! BD2412 T 20:32, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Keep. Future9 19:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC) Why don’t you at least let someone, add the references proving there should be a page for Dr. Leigh-Davis? In fact, I just added three credible references, there is no way anyone even had “time” to pull the references and read them. Thereby, why don’t you not only let references be added ; common sense dictates you should allow time for the references to at least be read, and then reviewed. I am requesting IMMEDIATE “deletion review,” and I may even go to the media. Future9 19:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)Future9Future9 19:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * DO NOT Delete It is clear, this is a racist attack on Dr. Leigh-Davis for being a black professor. You won’t even allow 15 minutes for anyone to review or add to this page.  There are many, many, many, much less notable white professors on this Wikipedia.  The media needs to do a report on Wikipedia’s racism.

Keep. CreativeEndeavors 21:41, 8 September 2010 (UTC)CreativeEndeavors CreativeEndeavors 21:41, 8 September 2010 (UTC)Creative Endeavors
 * DO NOT Delete First, Wikiquote does not require that only one person use a quote. Further, although people have said “I believe in me,” I do not see a previous attributable quote.  Being said before, does not bar someone else making a future quote of it.  Clearly, being said in passing, is very different from repeatedly using it as your slogan in registered and copyrighted literature.   Lastly, I have seen this book in the library, and although I have not read it, I know people who live by it.

Keep. TJJordan 22:50, 8 September 2010 (UTC)TJJordan TJJordan 22:49, 8 September 2010 (UTC)TJJordan
 * DO NOT Delete I have not read these books, but I have seen Dr. Leigh-Davis on television talking about them, and reading the quotes, at least three different times. Being notable is not a Wikiquote requirement, and regardless, Dr. Leigh-Davis is notable.   The requirement is the quotes actually must be published or broadcast.  This requirement has more than been met.  If you are going to nitpick, there are a lot of other quotes that you should direct your energy to.


 * Notice: A checkuser investigation during deletion review at Wikipedia has determined that CreativeEndeavors, TJJordan, and Future9 are sockpuppets. ~ Ningauble 00:45, 9 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete, per nom. ~ UDScott 01:28, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Keep. JaneDanielsPR 03:08, 9 September 2010 (UTC)JaneDanielsPR AFTRA - Information, News and Pictures - WSJ.com Sep 18, 2008 ... AFTRA - profile from the Wall Street Journal. ... Dr. Leigh-Davis is Written-in at American Federation of Television and Radio Artists ... topics.wsj.com/organization/a/aftra/4389 - Cached
 * DO NOT Delete I was easily able to pull up many credible sources on Dr. Leigh-Davis, going back several years, the citation below is The Wall Street Journal, 2008:

JaneDanielsPR 03:08, 9 September 2010 (UTC)JaneDanielsPR http://www.aftra.org/documents/LA_2010_General_Election_Voting_Results.pdf JaneDanielsPR 03:12, 9 September 2010 (UTC)JaneDanielsPR
 * DO NOT Delete Dr. Leigh-Davis is listed as being a write-in candidate, right alongside Morgan Fairchild, by her fellow broadcasters and actors, in the recent A.F.T.R.A. (American Federation of Radio and Television) Union elections. Is A.F.T.R.A. a hoax also?  Please realize, there are notable people who don’t have a strong internet presence.  Several articles came up about Dr. Leigh-Davis and AFTRA, but I don’t have time to review them now.
 * Notable people from past generations, perhaps, but notable American television and media personalities? Not in this day and age. BD2412 T 03:22, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * DO NOT Delete The recent A.F.T.R.A. Union election results are here:
 * I notice that "Butthead Dingleberry" also got a write-in vote, so I suppose by your logic we should have an entry for "Butthead Dingleberry" (unless Dr. Leigh-Davis and Butthead Dingleberry are the same person). So did "Dopey" and "Tomato". On second thought, we should have a Tomato entry. BD2412 T 03:30, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Seriously, though, enough with the sockpuppetry. This discussion is now semi-protected. Cheers! BD2412 T 03:31, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per WQ:NOTE and the evidence at w:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr. Leigh-Davis and w:Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 September 8 that this is a hoax; salt per ridiculous sockpuppetry. -Sketchmoose 16:17, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per Sketchmoose's reasoning. Sjones23 03:22, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note - these users were blocked on the English Wikipedia for the exact same disruption and perpetuation of completely unverifiable information; I ran the same CheckUser on en.wiki and came up with the exact same socks as the above CU result. For those who do not know, you can find the information on the English Wikipedia under w:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr. Leigh-Davis and w:Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 September 8. Basically, there is no Yuin University law school, she is not listed as a dean, there are no records of any of her credentials of having earned her Ph.D. let alone been to school at Harvard or Yale, nor any proof that she taught at a Cal State university (the one description doesn't even mention where, i.e. Fullerton, Chico, etc.), there is no proof she won any "Ms. California" beauty pageant, and after all this time she still has no known first name . This is basically and long and poorly thought-out attempt at fraudulently inflating a nobody's status, and this person is now exclaiming "racism" and posting horribly-written press releases about how Wikipedia is racist because he knows we're on to him and that we see through everything. MuZemike 04:41, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed! We're done with this one. Cheers! BD2412 T 22:09, 15 September 2010 (UTC)