Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Dr. suess

Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 17:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Dr. suess
Presumably a mistake for Dr. Seuss, with one unsourced quote.— Cato 20:05, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Vote closed: Result: delete. Comment about attribution of the quote is relevant at Dr. Seuss. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 17:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete and move the quote to the Dr. Seuss page, under Unsourced. ~ UDScott 20:12, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Prob'ly a newbie (but don't say a boobie, for that isn't right', cause it isn't polite). It may be a ruse, since it don't sound like seuss, but if one has the urge, let him source it and merge. --Ubiquity 20:13, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Ubiquity. I could never state it so well. ;-) FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 20:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete and sorry I speedied it once, due to duplication. I restored. I support Ubiquity. Just delete it and encourage the poster to add an sourced quote to Dr. Seuss. --Aphaia 20:48, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I have added the quote to Dr. Seuss per UDScott. Lots of web sites attribute it to Dr. Seuss but I have not found a precise source.--Cato 20:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete now that the quote has been added to the Unsourced section of the Dr. Seuss page. In homage to Ubiquity's vote above, I would venture to add: So ends my chase, not unlike a wild goose's, To source this quotation, allegedly Seuss's. I could not find the source online. I could not pluck it from a vine. I could not read it in a book. I could not hear it from a rook. Not gleaned from Bartlett's, nor from Google, Nor from a Froomty Oogly-Oogle. I asked my dinner (was it ham?), But all it told me: "Spam, I am!" - InvisibleSun 22:07, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Whether Seuss ever said it, it's quoted in one Bennett Cerf's Shake Well Before Using: A New Collection of Impressions and Anecdotes, Mostly Humorous - published in 1948, and attributing the quote to a Mr. Baruch. Cheers! BD2412 T 23:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment That's helpful, thanks. If it is by a Mr. Baruch, clearly it's not by Dr Seuss!--Cato 23:50, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I said it didn't sound like Seuss. We have a page on Bernard Baruch, the quote should be moved there, possibly with a note under "misattributions" for seuss, since apparently a lot of people seem to think it's his. For the context of the remark, see here, for instance. --Ubiquity 00:14, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, done that. Still, that site isn't infallible either.  It attributes a comment about Doris Day to Oscar Levant, but (according to Halliwell's Who's Who and the Penguin Dictionary of Modern Quotations) it's by Groucho Marx.--Cato 06:55, 2 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment: Google Book Search shows the following attributing it to Seuss:
 * McEwan, Ten Traits of Highly Effective Principals (2003), Corwin Press
 * Christopher, Ghettoway Weekend (fiction, 2006), Lulu.com
 * Frost, Stroke: A Long, Challenging Journey (2006), AuthorHouse
 * Bell, Chew on Things - It Helps You Think (2007), Bookworm Press
 * Copen, Why Can't I Make People Understand? (2007), Rest Ministries
 * I didn't notice that any of them bothered to cite the actual work it supposedly came from. The preponderance of recent quotations gives the impression that they were all based on a recent attribution somewhere, quite possibly unsourced. On the other hand, Cerf apparently credited a New York Journal American writer for quoting Baruch, raising the question of whether Baruch himself was quoting someone else without attribution. (And what exactly is the NYJA's published evidence that Cerf is alluding to?) This strikes me as an excellent example of why specific sources must be cited for quotes, lest we be taken in by iffy recollections, even of published authors. Without a cited, published work, we have no way of identifying who said it first (if either did). What we can do is include the earliest published citations supporting each attributee. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 21:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)