Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Harsh Narain

Harsh Narain
No evidence of notability, it was deleted in Wikipedia for the same reason. — Rupert Loup 18:45, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Vote closes: 19:00, 10 October 2020 (UTC)


 * KEEP.--Vilho-Veli (talk) 16:19, 6 October 2020 (UTC) - Google Books isn't necessary, every printed book in any library in the world is a reliable source.--Vilho-Veli (talk) 22:08, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Vilho-Veli: Can you elaborate on why it should be kept? Arguments need to be made so we achieve consensus. Rupert Loup 16:00, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Vilho-Veli: there is a standard on WQ in what is a RS, because one of its goals is becoming one WQ:PG. WQ:VERF seems to state that a reliable source is a "reputable", "independent and unbiased source". Which is similar to that of Wikipedia W:WP:REPUTABLE. I don't know what are you trying to say about Google Books, but there are other ways to find sources, the importan is that sources are presented here, I'm willing to do my best to try to verify them. Rupert Loup 22:39, 8 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Additional comments: A simple search on Google Books and other search sites shows that this author has been quoted and cited numerous times. I just note that he is also being quoted in books that are not searchable online on Google Books, such as the books by Meenakshi Jain. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 10:36, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Reported by Ashok Kumar Pant, a software engineer, not a realiable secondary source on the issue.
 * Mentioned by Gilbert Pollet, don't know his occupation, probably an historian?
 * Reported by Qamar Hasan, psychometrician from the 
 * Not quite there to prove that the author is widely reported. Which books of Meenakshi Jain? Rupert Loup 16:00, 8 October 2020 (UTC)


 * All I am saying is that was able to find enough sources using search engines, and that some sources like the one I specified is not searchable and findable with only an online search. I don't want to spend more time on something that is clear enough, but if an admin has a related question, I will respond. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 21:32, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You said that he is mentioned in Meenakshi Jain's books, that means that you have access to her books. If not how do you know that he is mentioned in her books in the first place? So please, tell us in which books. Rupert Loup 21:45, 8 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Note: I have removed my Keep vote from this page due to (in my opinion unfounded) concerns by Rupert that it is a personal attack. I don't believe this is true, and I have also said that Rupert has made personal attacks and harassment against me, but in spirit of reconciliation I removed it. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 13:12, 11 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete.Subject fails Notability and WQ:Quotability. Akhiljaxxn (talk) 11:12, 30 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Additional note to my deleted comment that was deleted from this page: See this quote which establishes the author's importance "Harsh Narain quotes more than a hundred and thirty references in English, French, Hindi, Sanskrit, Urdu, Persian and Arabic. The most comprehensive discussion of the primary material available is probably [his] book..." quoted in the book: The Truth of Babri Mosque by Ashok Pant, 2012.  The user Akhiljaxxn was edit-warring previously, made extreme personal attacks on WQ was edit-warring many times, did canvassing and forum shopping this could be part of it and only edits articles about the opposition party in India about which he deleted all quotes that are not 100 percent positive about the political party.
 * Article should be expanded with quotes about this works on Hindu philosophy. --ო (talk) 12:09, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The forum shopping and canvassing on other websites were done by somebody else, I mistakenly attributed the forum shopping and canvassing to this user, striking through, but the extreme personal attacks were done by this user. This user has made extreme personal attacks across wikiquote against the No personal attack policy. Personal attacks should never be used in Wikiquote. . --ო (talk) 12:20, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

My keep vote was deleted by Rupert loup and can be seen in old history, see the history.

Obviously when trillions of other lesser known people exist on Wikiquote, some of them created by the nominator of this deletion discussion, its unfair that some are nominated for deletion because of their views. The problem is this: There are trillions of less notable pages here, some of them created by the nominator of this deletion discussion, and they dont get deleted. Why? Because no one cares. Usually any other lesser-known XYZ person wouldnt have the problem with getting nominated for deletion. It applies to any controversial article, on topics with strongly different opinions and where editors of different beliefs are editing, thats where the problem lies. Currently, Wikiquote doesnt have any policies about how to deal with this effectively. New policies have to be made to deal with this. I dont know whats a good solution for this.

This author is obviously notable and his works and views on ram janmabhoomi were widely discussed in the 1990s.

--ო (talk) 12:20, 15 December 2020 (UTC), , , , this article has been here for many months, can it be closed? -- ო ~ #SheSaid 10:36, 21 March 2021 (UTC)