Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Hayreddin Barbarossa


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The result was: delete. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 16:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Hayreddin Barbarossa
Unquestioned notability. But the single quote is so badly translated as to not make any sense, and since no source is provided, it cannot be verified, or even better translated. — Ubiquity 11:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Vote closed: Result: Delete. No prejudice to anyone who wants to write a proper article which actually has quotes. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 16:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment: I tried to fix this. It looked like all I had to do was shorten the intro, remove all the redlinks, correct the section heads, slap "stub" on it, and find a decent translation for the quote. But the last item -- the most important -- eluded me. And the Turkish page was no help, as the quote does not appear there. I could guess at a better way to express in English what I think the quotation says, but without a source, I could never be sure it was correct, or even that Barbarossa really said this. So I gave up. Maybe someone else with a better knowledge of Ottoman history (or stronger Google-fu) can find the quote and a source somewhere, and save this page. --Ubiquity 11:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Reluctant delete As Adam Mickiewicz shows, it should be possible to salvage articles like this, but I can't see how to do it.--Cato 22:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment If he's that notable, can't we find some different quotes to use instead?--Poetlister 15:16, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you've got the right idea, Poetlister. I tried to use Free Online Translator's Turkish-to-English translator to get at least some sense of tr:Barbaros Hayreddin Paşa's original Turkish quotes, hoping to use it to ferret out likely English-version quote keywords, but FOT's Turkish is still a work in progress. (So much for my Google-fu.) But surely someone who's had English-language books and films created about him would have a pithy phrase or two we can find in such works? ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete unless/until remarkable sourced quotes are found. FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 18:39, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. - InvisibleSun 18:40, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per FloNight. I was confused when I supposed finding quotes on this person shouldn't be too difficult — I was thinking of Frederick I Barbarossa, the Holy Roman Emperor. (Not to mention that the films I was thinking of were a Western and a pirate film, both involving fictional Barbarossas.) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per FloNight -- Herby talk thyme 13:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I know I'm past the closing time, but just to say that I can't find any quotes.--Yehudi 12:32, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


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