Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Kameron Hurley

Kameron Hurley
REASONING — She does not seem to be notable enough. There is no WP article. She has published a few books, but her publisher, Night Shade Books, is not particularly notable.Collingwood (talk) 16:38, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Vote closes: 17:00, 27 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete as nom.--Collingwood (talk) 16:38, 20 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep. OK Mark, calm down, take a deep breath. There; easy does it, do not yell at the man; he's just making a possibly valid point. The novel was nominated for the Nebula award; that is hardly a criterion for non-notability. No, she does not have a Wikipedia page yet; someone should do something about that. As for Night Shade Books, they published "The Windup Girl," which won both the Hugo and the Nebula. I work hard to put up interesting quotes from the science fiction and fantasy corpus; I've even been commended by one of the administrators. To delete this page would mean I should not do anything by new authors, which seems self-evidently wrong. Respectfully requesting that we leave the page as is. Markjoseph125 (talk) 17:21, 20 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep. Being short listed for, but not winning, a major award may not in itself pass muster at Wikipedia (I would give much more weight to nominations from the SFWA than, e.g., Hugo nominations, which are open to the general public); however, her work has received more than a little attention in multiple significant venues, and was short listed for numerous other discriminating awards. The novel God's War has received favorable reviews in many venues, including one for Locus Magazine by Jeff VanderMeer as one of the year's best, She was recently interviewed by Liz Bourke for Tor.com. Her short fiction has appeared in Year's Best SF 12. About Night Shade Books: this is a small press, but not a non-notable or unselective one. Their list is really quite impressive. Personally, I would far rather see quotes from works of well recognized literary ambition in Wikiquote than all the deliberately mindless but "notable" television pap that fills so many of our pages. ~ Ningauble (talk) 20:37, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree wholeheartedly with Ningauble's last line about all the Wikiquote pages filled with TV or movies of little or no importance. Markjoseph125 (talk) 04:26, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * While I will agree that there is plenty of mindless "quotes" in some TV and film pages, I would not make such a broad statement that all such pages are not worth having. Perhaps it is my own biases, but I find plenty of worthwhile quotes from such sources. Admittedly, there are often more profound statements in literature or the words or living people, but there are also plenty of jewels to be found within the media pages. ~ UDScott (talk) 16:24, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I did not mean by "all the ... television pap" to imply all television is pap; but a very large proportion of programming is intended, by design, to divert the mind without engaging any higher cognitive faculties – for the benefit of viewers who just want to relax and for the benefit of advertisers who want them in a receptive state of mind. There is some brilliant material on television, and I have added a few television quotes myself; but a large proportion of contributions from mass media are acutely undiscerning, and that is the pap to which I was referring. I was just venting frustration at how anything and everything in the mass media gets an A++ for notability and seems, as a consequence, to be presumed so eminently quoteworthy that it is difficult to stay within the limits of fair use, while something acclaimed in a relatively smaller literary field needs to be carefully vetted for inclusion. ~ Ningauble (talk) 19:23, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep, per the discussion above. ~ UDScott (talk) 16:24, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment I have no wish to disparage Markjoseph, who is an excellent editor. I was far from convinced of the author's notability so I did my duty and brought it here for discussion.  It seems that others feel she is notable; OK, I have learnt something.--Collingwood (talk) 23:02, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep I would certainly call her notable enough.--Abramsky (talk) 12:51, 30 January 2013 (UTC)