Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Lexmark Optra

--Cato 19:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Lexmark Optra
After a couple of attempts by others to prod this one, and my speedy delete, I guess we actually need a vfd discussion. I do not see the value of keeping this page. I believe the subject is not notable and that there is very little memorable on the page. — UDScott 18:25, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Vote closes: 19:00, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. ~ UDScott 18:25, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is so wrong, I can't even classify it. These aren't even quotations, really. BD2412 T 18:31, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's error messages from a printer. Humorous, yes, but not WQ material. -- Greyed 18:35, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. They certainly aren't quotes from "notable people and creative works". But I think there's even a bigger problem here and that's the lack of verifiability. Without a reputable printed source, we have no proof whatsoever that someone didn't just make these up. I own and use many Lexmarks, including some Optras, and have never seen such messages. They certainly aren't documented in any Lexmark error message guide. Without some objective proof I am inclined to believe this is a hoax. --Ubiquity 20:36, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean to suggest it was your hoax, Ennetws, but just that these don't appear to be the official error messages of a Lexmark Optra.


 * Delete. - InvisibleSun 21:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Quotes are not quotes from "notable people and creative works". However, they are real and might only be related to that certain Optra W810 model. --Ennetws 21:33, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as unsourceable, unmemorable, and a likely hoax. As another proud owner of an Optra, I found this hard to credit. (As opposed to early Texas Instruments DS990 operating system code, which included an error message for catastrophic failures: "Shut 'er down, Clancy — she's a-pumpin' mud!" Someday I'll have to dig up a reliable source for that one.) I could not find any of a sample of these supposed messages in the Lexmark Optra W810 Complete Printer Reference. I did find a number of other error messages on page 59 of that work, all of which are typical printer errors. (Pages 119 and 145 do have a "Staples Low" error message, which is logical given this printer can staple its output, but "Staples Found" implies a copier choking on a stapled document, which I imagine is part of the joke here.) I'll give the creator (who may not be our new editor, who could conceivably be copying this from some non-web source in good faith) some credit for originality — many of these "errors" seem fairly unique in a Google search, implying both the lack of authenticity and the lack of a web-published hoax to copy from. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 00:38, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment This comment is regarding the authenticity of the error messages. The error messages in the Lexmark Optra are real. The printer is located in one of the OIT offices at Portland State University. I did google some of the terms that I saw on the printer and didn't find similar encounters. However, I can provide visual proof if someone is interested. Please note that I voted for the article's deletion for the reasons given above. --Ennetws 06:25, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Intriguing. "OIT", I assume, is the Office of Information Technologies at PSU. It sounds to me like some clever Engineering & Computer Science students, or possibly some amusing OIT employees, did a little creative flash reprogramming of the printer in question. This would support your argument, Ennetws, that the quotes are not from notable people, except that the people are perhaps from PSU and not Lexmark. In any case, the origin of the messages is irrelevant, as they do not seem to have been published in any reliable source, nor are likely to be, making the quotes themselves non-notable as well as unsourceable. (Visual proof may be quite accurate, but isn't vetted by an editorial board before general publication, so it's not wiki-reliable.) As you agreed above, it's not Wikiquote material. Please don't take my skepticism as criticism; this possibility is exactly the kind of thing that can make an honest attempt to document something one has experienced look like a hoax, when it may only be an innocent local prank the editor is unaware of. (And I'd want to document it myself — it's the kind of techie joke I myself liked to engage in when I was in college. And, um… later training as well…) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 07:29, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Even the editor who removed earlier notices agrees! It should have been speedied.-- Poetlister  15:49, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You're right Poetlister - I did actually SD it originally, but after its recreation (and the removal of a prod tag twice) I decided to open this discussion. ~ UDScott 19:52, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, BD2412, Greyed and Poetlister. --Aphaia 09:00, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Speechless.--Cato 22:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete --Inesculent 08:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)