Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Most notable people

~ Ningauble (talk) 21:48, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Most notable people
I do not see the point of this page - and furthermore, how would one decide who belongs in the list? That seems a highly subjective process to me, thus pushing a POV. — UDScott (talk) 22:48, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Vote closes: 23:00, 18 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. ~ UDScott (talk) 22:48, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. We already have an index of all people with Wikiquote pages. There is no practical way to determine where the cutoff for "most notable" should be, so I think it is best that we leave it at that. BD2412 T 22:53, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is an old page edited by many persons. And after hard work you want to delete itǃ--Risto hot sir (talk) 22:56, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The community can decide who's very notable. There are about 20 000 sites of people, so it would be very difficult to find the really important ones.--Risto hot sir (talk) 23:04, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The site has been visited 1154 times in 90 days.--Risto hot sir (talk) 23:35, 11 January 2019 (UTC) - "List of most beautiful people" can't be compared to this. You can notice that the majority are definitely very notable - heads of state, prime ministers, Nobel laureates, inventors etc. While I edit I read the introduction and decide that this one is notable enough, will not waste time to add less important ones. Wikipedia also should have this kind of list.--Risto hot sir (talk) 12:56, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The red links show extremely notable people, like Jack Nicholson, who definetily deserve an article.--Risto hot sir (talk) 23:57, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * If you don't appreciate my categorizing skills, tell it straight, so I can concentrate in other projects.--Risto hot sir (talk) 00:51, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The index of all people gives only names; every time you have to go to the article to find out who they are/were and when they lived - it's impossible to see the essential on one site.--Risto hot sir (talk) 23:21, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * It's like having 10 000 tons of stones with some gold inside; most people want it separated.--Risto hot sir (talk) 18:38, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * "The minority is sometimes right, the majority is always wrong" (George Bernard Shaw). - By the way, I changed the name to Most known people on my user's page - it's more neutral.--Risto hot sir (talk) 22:37, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

The facts after year 1989 are updated - even J. Laine couldn't see the future. But "Most notable people" is a bad name. It should be "Most known people" or "Persons whose sites are visited the most". The latter would be objective but unfair to non-English world.--Risto hot sir (talk) 15:04, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I would have no objection to moving this to your user space. If it was reworked into a list of notable people missing pages, I would not object to this being made a project-space page, either. BD2412 T 16:16, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * A "project-space page" seems a good idea. There are already similar things on other Wikimedia projects.--Spinoziano (talk) 15:41, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Clearly a duplication effort of the list of articles here, and in a way an expression of opinion and not fact. Note that the article creator claims that "many" have edited it. Have a look at the history for yourselves and you'll see that it's only been two editors aside from the one who added the VfD tag. Articles do not equal categories. TLPG (talk) 03:39, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * (opinion requested) Neutral. --Spinoziano (talk) 13:14, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete from article space. If a user wants to have it or similar as a subpage among their user pages, of course that is ok. A similar page, but only for as-yet non-existing person pages may be appropriate in Wikiquote: space. --R. S. Shaw (talk) 20:37, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete or userfy. There's nothing wrong with lists that help users navigate pages they're interested in, but a list needs some type of objective inclusion criteria. I'm not sure there is any possible inclusion criteria here other than personal preference. It's unfortunate that this received so much work and the appropriateness of the page wasn't addressed much earlier, but w:Sunk cost isn't really a valid keep rationale. We could make an indefinite number of similarly arbitrarily broad lists: List of most beautiful people, List of smartest people, List of most eloquent people, but they'd all just be different flavors of List of people by personal preference, with no real way of telling who belongs and who doesn't.  G M G  talk  12:00, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge any useful content to List of people by name, then move to project or user space. jni (talk) 13:43, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per all of the above. Don't really see much of a purpose to this page. Too subjective to be useful. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:37, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete completely arbitrary. Praxidicae (talk) 15:11, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Could you tell me where else you can find the living years, for example, on one site?--Risto hot sir (talk) 00:49, 11 March 2019 (UTC) - And this is not my own research, it's the index of the published book, Suuri Sitaattisanakirja. A couple of editors and me have just updated it. Every respected science book has index of subjects, people plus key words. So why not the same here?--Risto hot sir (talk) 12:16, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I fail to see how this is an index of this book of quotations published in 1982, when it includes entries such as Christina Aguilera, who was two years old when the book was published, and Lily Allen, who would be born three years after publication.
 * Even if it was an index of this book, being part of one collection of quotes does not make a person "most notable". Notability is not really a continuum. You either are notable in the Wikimedia sense, meaning you are an appropriate subject for entries in our various project according to their local policies, or you are not notable meaning you are not currently appropriate for these entries.  G M G  talk  12:26, 13 March 2019 (UTC)