Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/P. M. Currie


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: '''merge. --Saroj Uprety (talk) 14:22, 3 May 2023 (UTC)'''.

P. M. Currie
Lack of sourced notability of subject given no Wikipedia article. Further indicators with subject is only initials are presented here. The book might be notable but that is a different matter. — User:Djm-leighpark(a)talk 23:46, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Vote closes: 00:00, 26 January 2023 (UTC).


 * Keep or move to book article, or merge and redirect (per others in the discussion). The deletion seems based on the fact that the subject has no article in the encyclopedia wikipedia, but it is not wikiquote policy that such an article must exist. A compendium of quotes can have notability criteria that are different from an encyclopedia, see Category:Articles with no corresponding English Wikipedia article. I don't mind if the article is moved to a book article about the book. The book is probably the most important academic study on the subject matter of this book. The book is notable and has been quoted numerous times by multiple other authors. --ᘙ (talk) 23:56, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Nope. The article, and pretty much in the lead section, has to represent the notability of the subject with verifiable sourced information. For a bio, which this is in its current form, that means linking to an article in the English Wikipedia in which case it seems fairly acceptable as no need to cite the lead section, or not linking to an English Wikipedia in which cause the lead section should be cited for verification or else its useless for towards any notability claim made in that section. There a possible concession if the associated wikidata item can be used to validate it, but P. M. Currie does not have one.  What is a problem that I have just come across is that the lead section can be sourced from  or  and what we have here seems to be a direct one-for-one match with senteneces from those places which then raises the issue of possible copyright violation. -- User:Djm-leighpark(a)talk 08:52, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * nope? then where in the Deletion policy do you see your interpretations of the notability requirements? It is not in any official wikiquote policy and looking at Category:Articles with no corresponding English Wikipedia article it has not been recorded consensus at wikiquote either. of course, I understand your concern that many wikiquote articles have questionable notability, but IMHO it would be better to define some notability rules in the Deletion policy, get consensus for the rules, and then apply them equally to all articles. Re the blurb it is found on Google Books and many more different websites, I'm not sure if it is fair use so I have rewritten it. P.M. Currie might well be notable under wikipedias' rules himself, the book can be said to have made a significant impact in the study of this Sufi, but at least the book quoted should definitely be, see this link  which lists four different reviews.
 * "Further indicators with subject is only initials are presented here. " P.M. Currie is how this author is commonly cited. --ᘙ (talk) 11:59, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Subject meets the wq notability requirements IMO, he has also been quoted multiple times by others, and likely also the requirements of the wikipedia website, but in this case it could also be moved to the book article or merged to Moinuddin Chishti and redirected. --ᘙ (talk) 11:24, 23 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete. As indicated above, this could be made into a book article; alternatively, the important quotes could be added to the relevant topic pages. Markjoseph125 (talk) 03:23, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge notable/quoteworthy quotes into the Moinuddin Chishti page. ~ UDScott (talk) 15:41, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.