Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Prvoslav Vujčić

Not the most unanimous VfD in the world, but there are reasonable concerns about how the sources can't be verified. All in all, this seems like a much better article for the native language edition of Wikiquote, not the English edition. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:27, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Prvoslav Vujčić
No quotes from the person, the person (seems to) lack(s) quotability. — Mdd (talk) 10:59, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Vote closes: 11:00, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: this article only has one quote, but even that quote isn't adequately sourced. (I wouldn't be surprised if the article was deleted with the rationale "no sourced quotes".) ~ DanielTom (talk) 11:58, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep: I'm in the process of adding numerous adequately sourced quotes that have been translated. – Tempo21 (talk) 13:32, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: While the additions are appreciated, I do not believe you actually have provided "adequate" sources since those provided are not in English. Please provide sources in English so that the quotes can be verified. Thanks. ~ UDScott (talk) 13:41, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think "sources in English" are required, as long as he cites the originals in Serbian (as far as I can tell, the English translations are his). ~ DanielTom (talk) 13:52, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, I beg to differ. One of the main purposes of having quotes properly sourced is so that the provided quotes can be verified. As this is English Wikiquote, having sources that can be read (and the quotes verified) by English-speaking people seems a given. Also, there is no way to even verify the source itself if one is unable to read what is written. ~ UDScott (talk) 13:55, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I think translations by users have always been allowed on Wikiquote, if the original quotes & sources are provided. ~ DanielTom (talk) 14:11, 14 August 2013 (UTC) P.S. Apparently, this is not a new issue. Jeff Q (2007): We officially prefer to have the original quote cited (and sourced) first, then the English translation given underneath. (Whether the translation should reliably sourced or not is an ongoing debate ...) ~ DanielTom (talk) 14:20, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, having the original quote in its original language is correct (and having a translation is fine), but when a given source has no English whatsoever, how is one to know if: (1)it is a proper source - meaning a legitimate third party and not someone's personal blog and (2) if the quote is actually on the page or even attributed to the person? My objection is not regarding a translation of the quote, but rather an inability to read the purported source of said quote. ~ UDScott (talk) 14:40, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Google translate is your friend, but I agree that it may be hard to find out if the source presented is reliable (your first concern). ~ DanielTom (talk) 14:50, 14 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep, per recent additions. (Tempo21, you should add the originals in Serbian as well, along with the translations.) ~ DanielTom (talk) 13:38, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment So far there is no prove that this author had any impact on English/American culture. His work is being translated into English only this year. Also there seems to be articles about this author present in over 20 Wikipedia's. Now I checked some of those histories and all the time a new username is created, that only created that one article (and left). It seems a lot like we are facing an extensive merchandise campaign of one person with 25+ user-id's. -- Mdd (talk) 15:45, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Respected Wikiquote editors, I may be new to Wikiquote but I am definitely not new to Wikipedia. I've been editing Wikipedia for almost a decade. There are now quotes from the author in question and he is definitely quotable as he is a writer. The sources are adequate, why does it matter if they are in English or not? However, I will try and find some quotes already in English. Also, I want to respond to Mdd. Why would this author have any impact on English and/or American culture when he is not either English or American? You are incorrect that his work is being translated into English only this year as his four new books are written in English – they are not translated. Why am I being brought into question about "facing an extensive merchandise campaign of one person with 25+ user-id's" because this is not a fair assumption. I have nothing to do with other languages. My first language is English but I also speak Serbian and neighboring languages very well hence the translations. – Tempo21 (talk) 11:36, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * There is a Serbian Wikiquote for hosting quotes in Serbian. A quote in Serbian may be hosted here if a reliable source exists in which it has been translated to English. Cheers! BD2412 T 13:33, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete because the quotes are not properly sourced in a way that I (or any other non-Serbian speaking person) can verify them (see above discussion). I would also second BD2412's recommendation to start a page on the Serbian WQ, but not to have it here. ~ UDScott (talk) 13:39, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. I have to question whether something that is not found in English contexts is really notable in the context of a English compendium of quotations. Perhaps it would be a good idea to add something to our guidelines about quoting non-English works that are quoted in English literature or published in English translations. ~ Ningauble (talk) 13:43, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep I don't know if the voting is closed yet (looks like it is?) but this definitely seems keepable and the author notable. PidgeCopetti (talk) 16:13, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * — User:PidgeCopetti (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Delete. After one month still no quotes from original English/American sources, only self-translated work. Still no indication of quotability. -- Mdd (talk) 12:01, 17 September 2013 (UTC)