Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Psychological manipulation

Psychological manipulation
None of the quotes included specifically mention the term and require too much additional context to comprehend the suggested association; the Huxley quote is a non-sequitur that doesn't even specify who is being talked about, and the ones from Bernays quotes are more about propaganda and sociology, and the one from Marcuse is about manipulation in general. Should it be inductively reasoned there would be no objection to pages for religious manipulation, economic manipulation, or sexual manipulation containing a series of quotes that don't even use the term, based on this overly specialized page? This page is effectively just an "anti-X", page, which is not how Wikiquote is organized; nor do we have "psychology of X" pages. — CensoredScribe (talk) 16:12, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Vote closes: 17:00, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand the logic of the argument. There is a wikipedia page Psychological manipulation and the quotations in the Wikiquote article are related to the topic as it is described on the wikipedia page. The VfD should take place on Wikipedia. ~ Peter1c (talk) 19:17, 15 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Biographies of Karl Marx is not a page we need even though it is a fine Wikipedia page consisting of a list of page links, similarly we don't need filmography of director or actor pages, I'm sure you would agree as much. It's not just lists that make for bad Wikipedia pages to transfer onto Wikiquote though: do we both not agree that Race of Jesus is a bad idea for a Wikiquote page even though there's plenty of quotes on that Wikipedia page? There's a Wikipedia page for Jesus in Islam as well, yet I expect X religious figure in Y religion pages are not very welcome here, I've not checked the deletion logs but I believe others will concur with me on that. I don't particularly like the fact that we have pages for inane details about individuals like Religious views of Adolf Hitler and Depictions of Muhammad either, regardless of the number of quotes on the Wikipedia pages for them, but I'd prefer not to have multiple VFD discussions going at the same time given how long it often takes for even one of them to close. I won't contest having a page for the Holy Grail or any other religious relics but this starts to get a bit problematic in terms of ease of access if everyone has to know the exact phraseology and page titles begin to approach the length of whole sentences. CensoredScribe (talk) 22:36, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

CensoredScribe, each Wikipedia page has a notable topic. If not, the VfD should be pursued on Wikipedia. If the topic is notable and the quotes are relevant to the topic, then what is the issue? ~ Peter1c (talk) 13:56, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I was specifically told by UDScott not to make a page for Male pregnancy, despite that being a Wikipedia page. Were I to do so, I doubt using your argument here would be effective in forcing the vote off site onto Wikipedia, which, by the way, isn't where we hold votes for Wikiquote, FYI. CensoredScribe (talk) 16:06, 12 July 2019 (UTC)