Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Robert J. Marks II

--Cato 22:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Robert J. Marks II
Subject is moderately well-known in the fields of computational intelligence and signal processing, but the quotes here are not from his published work but rather from an interview in the house organ of the Southern Baptists of Texas Convention. Professor Marks is welcome to his opinions, but that doesn't make them notable, or even informed. — Ubiquity 14:00, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Vote closes: 15:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete --Aphaia 14:20, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep The subject is I think notable enough and the quotes are sourced. Surely we have no rule that quotes must be informed.  If I added a quote from Charlie Chaplin saying that he doubted that Shakespeare was the real author of his plays, would anyone delete it on the grounds that it was ill-informed?-- Poetlister  15:06, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Substituting Quran for Bible in the 1st quote would remind me of a quote from of Their Magnificent Islamic-ness Maurice Bucaille and Adnan Oktar.--Inesculent 22:49, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Certainly the first quote is fair enough. While I wouldn't dissent from the sentiments in the other two, they seem a lot less notable.--Cato 22:52, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per the WP article, it would appear that Marks is known for his advocacy of "intelligent design" in addition to his computer engineering. - InvisibleSun 00:32, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'm the first author of this Wikiquote page. I was at a Marks lecture in 2001 at Cal Tech about evolutionary computing in swarm intelligence and have since followed his work off and on.  Some of his ideas (and quotes) on the mix of engineering and intelligent design are compelling.  (Others, I think, are plain wrong.) Insofar as being "moderately well-known," this isn't true in his field.  More generally, in intelligent design, Marks is one of those featured in the Ben Stein's Expelled documentary which is being released in movie theaters coast to coast in North America in April. Whether or not he is "informed" is a POV. - WasabiJones 21:12, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep notable and worthy --McNoddy 11:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Not everything said by someone notable is quotable.--Yehudi 18:17, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Indeed, whether his quotes are considered "informed" is POV. As an atheist I would (and do) consider them ill-informed.  I'm sure someone who has fallen in with the ID crowd would think exactly the opposite.  -- Greyed 03:42, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I was happy to see the Marks Wikipedia article but am sorry to see this vote. I got an account just to vote.  If you can objectively set aside your POV, these are great quotes.  -- HectorGleason 10:47, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Highly relevant. -- DanGrat 10:14, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Dittos with Greyed. -- NickMantuchi 10:24, 25 February 2008 (UTC)