Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Shamanism

&mdash; RyanCross (talk ) 03:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Shamanism
Apart from the copyright concerns being discussed on the Talk pages of each of the referenced pages, there are no quotes on the page. It does not seem to have a place here at Wikiquote.— UDScott 00:48, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Vote closes: 01:00, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. ~ UDScott 00:48, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, per UDScott. Cirt (talk) 01:24, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I have no objection at all to having a theme page on Shamanism, and I'm not entirely sure if the other pages listed here are copyvios, rather than just collections of quotes that are so incorrectly formatted as to look like articles. If that can be figured out, then the pithy examples should be moved to this page and the rest deleted. BD2412 T 03:11, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Like BD2412 I agree that an article for quotes on Shamanism are appropriate, but this does seem to be largely or primarily an author seeking to promote his own work and not actually widely noted or published quotes on the topic. The rest of the pages added by this user do seem worthy of deletion as simply self-promotion, and I will vote to delete at least most of these, even if this page is retained because quotes on Shamanism are actually found and added to it. ~ Achilles † 18:49, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice to a future article with notable and quotable quotes on the subject. At present the "article" has no quotes at all, being just an index to several pages full of bibliographic research notes. ~ Ningauble 16:55, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete unless it is decided that quotes from the referenced pages should be collected here after the close of their VfDs. - InvisibleSun 02:52, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Related discussion
In each case, where a person is claiming that there is violation of copyright, the claim is based on this being copied from a website, but, as I have answered in each case, I am the owner of that website. Furthermore, this would not "seem to be largely or primarily an author seeking to promote his own work", since the articles involved are all quotations (properly referenced) from books by other authors, all published by reputable academic sources, mainly university presses.71.76.32.220 20:46, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * There are no copyright violations
 * If that is indeed the case, then much on the pages would indeed be salvageable, but they would need to be included on pages in properly formatted styles, and with proper citations of sources. ~ Achilles † 20:58, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It may be the case that the contributor is actually the owner of that website, but it has not yet been demonstrated. See discussion at User talk:0XQ. ~ Ningauble 21:10, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I welcomed the IP user and gave him a friendly notice about copyright and releasing via GFDL, etc: . Cirt (talk) 21:21, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The site from which the linked pages were copied now displays GFDL notice on its Table of Contents at http://texts.00.gs/ (access date 2009-04-05 15:19 UTC). Even though the form of release is imperfect, I believe it indicates an association of the contributor here with authorship of that site, and an intention to release the content contributed. Therefore, at the conclusion of the votes for deletion I would be willing to remove the copyvio tag from such selections from the pages as may be salvaged and retained pursuant to those votes, provided that if the aggregate retained portions are substantial then proper attribution must be made in compliance with the terms of the GFDL. ~ Ningauble 16:03, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Each quotation is cited by page number in the book from which it is quoted; each book is cited by author, title, publisher, place of publication, and date of publication. What is lacking? (Is it the ISBN, or whatever?)0XQ 21:38, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * proper citations of sources
 * Well, look at your entry on To Weave and Sing. First, you have all these definitions, which do not belong in Wikiquote at all (try Wiktionary for those, but be very careful to follow Wiktionary's format for definitions, and be prepared to prove their use). You can cross reference words her to definitions there. As for quotes, it is not clear whether these are rephrasings in your own words, or the original quotes. Each quote should be a separate line (not in a table) with a separate citation indicating author, work, page, etc. BD2412 T 22:23, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Wiktionary and quotes
 * The articles which I would like to upload contain brief vocabularies from numerous languages (of various minor South American Indian tribes, for example) not included (as of yet, anyway) in Wiktionary; they would seem better to belong (just as they were often originally published) in a writing about those specific tribes.
 * As for quotes written within quotation marks in my articles, they are always verbatim, with ellipsis (...) to indicate any omission of words; page number is always indicated (and often section number, if used in the original).0XQ 22:51, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

What would it entail to have the website ownership adequately demonstrated? Would a reference to "Whois domain registration" for my webhosting company be required? Or would some notice (code-word, or whatever) on the "index page" of my website be adequate?0XQ 21:33, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ownership demonstrated
 * First and foremost, please fix the formatting. Have a look at Deism, for example, to see how quotes should be formatted and cited. That will make it possible for us to actually evaluate the individual quotes. Cheers! BD2412 T 21:40, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I see that the formatting for Wikiquote avoids standard bibliographers' (and librarians') abbreviations (p., cap., lib., tr., U, Pr -- for page, chapter, book, translator, University, Press). The texts which I could upload amount to hundreds of books with thousands of quotations; so it would be very tedious to type out (by hand, one at a time) thousands of full spellings of words for which I have abbreviations in the texts which I would like to upload. Any suggestions?0XQ 22:51, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * formatting
 * Not a problem - provide a list of those abbreviations and I'll use the AutoWikiBrowser to expand them all out. Please also bear in mind that we have limitations on the number of quotes that can be taken from any single book (for copyright concerns). However, if you have books that are in the public domain (e.g. published before 1923) then you can provide unlimited quotations. BD2412 T 22:53, 2 April 2009 (UTC)