Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Template:Closed and Template:Reopen

Template:Closed and Template:Reopen
This nomination is for Closed, Reopen and all their subtemplates, "databases" and other related stuff, basically everything in Special:Prefixindex/Template:Closed and Special:Prefixindex/Template:Reopen.

These templates attempt to reinvent the entire process of closing discussions, but do so in an unnecessarily convoluted and bureaucratic way for no good reason. At the moment all Template:Closed does is wrap text you give it in discussion-closed-top and discussion-closed-bottom tags, but that isn't how the template is supposed to work.

When you use the closed template rather than closing the discussion what it does is start a "request for closing". The editor has to put in a reason why they are requesting closure, then template creates a message and requests that an admin come along and verify that the close is correct. The admin then has to click a link to create an entry at Template:Closed/DataBase/VerifiedDataBase, which causes the template to actually display the "this discussion has been closed" message.

If another editor wants to reopen the discussion they have to use Template:Reopen. This works in a similar way to the closed template, an editor has to submit a request to reopen the discussion, an admin has to come along and "verify" that the request is valid, the template creates a page as part of a "verified database" to record that the reopening has occurred, at which point the discussion can start again.

These templates add an inordinate amount of time wasting, fucking about and admin intervention to a process that does not require it for no discernible benefit, closing or archiving a talk page discussion does not need checking by an admin. The creation of these "databases" is completely pointless, and is just going to result in a mess of thousands and thousands of pages in template space. These templates have built in "security features" like the databases and the pseudo-random number generation which add no actual security because this is a wiki, and basically any page can be edited by anyone. Overall these seem completely inferior to just using discussion-closed-top and discussion-closed-bottom, which have been in use for decades at this point. — 192.76.8.85 13:58, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Vote closes: 14:00, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom. ~ UDScott (talk) 18:47, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Rubbish computer (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 15:26, 27 July 2022 (UTC)