Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/The Simpsons:Hit and Run

—LrdChaos (talk) 20:43, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

The Simpsons:Hit and Run
Video game page with no content worth keeping. —LrdChaos (talk) 13:41, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Vote closes: 14:00, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete it appears to me to be a list of remarks from the game. To me this is different from a true list of remarkable quotes. For me the standard is that the quotes must be cited for being remarkable in a reliable source. In this case the remarks come from a notable video game but there is no evidence from a reliable source that any of the the quotes are particularly quoteworthy. FloNight 14:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - nothing worth keeping here. ~ UDScott 14:54, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per UDScott. I don't think we should create a criterion that we need "evidence from a reliable source that any of the the quotes are particularly quoteworthy" though.  If we have a well-known poet and quote a few lines from some of his or her poems, do we need evidence that those particular lines are particularly quoteworthy?--Poetlister 20:08, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Maybe or maybe not. If the whole poem was published in a highly regarded magazine or book, then maybe does not need for individual lines to be subject to further proof that they are remarkable; as all parts of the whole poem may be quotable for our purposes. But I do not think that is always the case for every line of every poem that a famous poet wrote. Different factors come into play for different types of media. For poetry, one factor might be the length of the poem. Another factor might be if the poem is well known or not. There are many more factors, that is the reason that content often needs to be decided locally on each article talk page or at an VfD. FloNight 20:31, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: This is an interesting argument, but I don't think we really need to try to define quoteworthiness down to the level of individual lines of poems (meaning that the given line is well known). In this case (the video game) none of these 'quotes' are memorable enough to stand on their own - which to me is what makes a quote worth having here. As to poems, if a particular line is memorable enough on its own then it should be included, regardless of the length of the poem or if one has heard of the quote, or other factors. The notability standard should be held to the person or subject of the page, and then whether or not the cited quote is particularly memorable. I liken it to how we are trying to trim pages for TV shows. Obviously a show like Friends is notable, but that doesn't mean that every line of every episode is worth quoting (and of course shouldn't be due to copyright issues). The test for such quotes is whether or not they stand on their own, even if one has never seen the show. I would treat other works similarly - once the notability of a given author is established, even if I have never read that author, does the quote stand on its own as memorable? ~ UDScott 14:46, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I have no disagreement with your view here. :-) The question is how do we know which lines are remarkable enough to be included? I was trying to explain some of the ways I determine if and how much of a poem is quoteable for our purposes. FloNight 16:19, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Try an experiment with quotes I added. Go to The Hunting of the Snark and tell me which quotes aren't worth their place here.--Poetlister 20:18, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I assume if you added them that they are remarkable. And there is a big difference between anything Lewis Carroll wrote and Simpsons video game remarks. :) --FloNight 15:13, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Past the close time, but I must add my agreement.--Cato 19:15, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Vote struck as being entered after the close. —LrdChaos (talk) 20:43, 20 August 2007 (UTC)