Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/User:Abd/Erkut Erdogan

User:Abd/Erkut Erdogan
This is a biographical article containing no quotations, and is not in English. The page was created in article space by an IP and was moved to user space by Abd while contesting speedy deletion. Neither the original IP nor user Abd evince any intention of developing it into a quotation article. As discussed at Meta, the IP has been plastering this content across multiple Wikimedia projects without regard for those projects' purposes. On the talk page user Abd indicates a desire to communicate with the IP rather than to develop an English Wikiquote article, saying "I will consent to deletion after a month's delay." There is no cause for such delay: deletion of vanity/hagiography pages without quotations is routine because Wikiquote is not Myspace or Facebook; and contributors may be notified with the WQisnot1 template. — Ningauble 14:37, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Vote closes: 15:00, 11 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete as nom. ~ Ningauble 14:37, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Does en.wikiquote has a scope? Yes, it does. Is en.wikiquote in English, yes, it is. So, I don't see any reason to waste our time discussing about a stuff which should be deleted asap or maybe just just a matter of this due to this. --Vituzzu 17:14, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I seriously considered just nuking it, but since it is now in user space it does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion (which I think are overly narrow). I would not object if another administrator wishes to do so, because it does not appear that the editors involved are here to build a compendium of quotations. ~ Ningauble 17:58, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Slow deletion. I agree that this discussion is a waste of time. I.e., folks, what's the big hurry? You waste time with a VfD when there is no doubt about the ultimate result? I moved the page to give the user an opportunity to recover his wikitext. That page is inappropriate here, there is no question about it. The user, however, who may be a published author, could become a useful contributor, here or on one of the wikis, and my use of my user space, to serve the user, is thoroughly in line with overall WikiMedia Foundation goals. I accomplished the goal of speedy deletion by moving the page away from mainspace. What, exactly, is the problem with this? Why is this considered disruptive? I'll guess. Could it be that someone wants to punish the user for not understanding what's proper on Wikiquote and other WMF wikis? For not understanding where to put the material on that page (there are appropriate places, particularly if the user registers an account.) It's simpler if this page is left for a while, then deleted. This VfD, which I surely did not expect, is giving me pause about Wikiquote. But I'll wait and see how the community responds, I won't make assumptions from just two users.
 * To be clear on the policy issue: the page is not appropriate for WQ and is not a draft of an appropriate page. However, it is an attempt to expand the user base for all WMF wikis, including WQ, by welcoming and encouraging an IP user toward appropriate behavior, and this is well within allowed usage of user space.
 * As to why I'm here, the claim that I'm not here for the project purpose is preposterous. This project is about building a compendium of quotations. I don't edit here unless it is related to that goal. But a means toward that goal is supporting and building the community that does the work. And WMF policy requires that the community be open. If the reality is that as soon as someone does something contrary to policy, they are slapped down, even globally blocked, and they are not welcomed and supported, and given full opportunity to understand and become cooperative, the community is not actually open, it's closed. It happens. I'm not active enough here to take a major role, it's up to the rest of you as to what kind of community you want.
 * "Slow deletion" is a category for pages destined for deletion, but temporarily kept for some reason. I created that idea, with some support, on Wikiversity. It seems to be working. It means that the page won't get forgotten for long. It's a subcategory of Requests for deletion on WV. It might become more sophisticated, i.e., dated. --Abd 19:42, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If one earnestly wishes to contact the contributor of this article, one could enquire at the Turkish Wikipedia where an article with the same text was previously posted by a registered account with e-mail enabled. However, it is not clear whether this was cross-posted here by the same person without logging in, or copied here by another person without attribution. ~ Ningauble 13:02, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the information. I'd looked and hadn't found this. I see that the original page creator was informed about the deletion, and recreated the page without discussion. I have now placed a notice on the user's Talk page there. The user doesn't seem to have email enabled, however. I'm willing to go so far to help a newbie, but not further. I'll wait to see if there is any response from the user. If not, I'll put a deletion tag on the page. --Abd 17:10, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * (You have to be logged in to see the "E-mail this user" link. The account with your name at tr.wikipedia is not unified so SUL does not automatically log you in.) ~ Ningauble 00:54, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * (slaps forehead! of course!) I'll handle that, I have an SUL account for those unresolved wikis. Thanks. .... Done. --Abd - en.wv 16:38, 6 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I have no objection to this page continuing to exist in userspace while the responsible editor considers how to integrate it into our materials. Such a page can be revisited in a few weeks or months to see if that process is actually progressing. BD2412 T 02:30, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Can this be closed yet? A full month has passed since the nomination and it is still the case that neither the user hosting this in userspace nor the original contributor have evinced any intention of developing it into a quotation article, or anything else of any relevance for Wikiquote. In the meanwhile, the above linked article at the Turkish Wikipedia has been deleted, repeatedly, by three different administrators. ~ Ningauble 19:06, 4 October 2011 (UTC)