Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Victor R. Ramirez


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: delete. 02:30, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Victor R. Ramirez
De-prodded non-notable self promoter. No Wikipedia article on this subject, no sourced quotes. Ningauble noted that this material was previously deleted as "Victor Ramirez" for the same reason., and was deleted at the Spanish Wikiquote for self-promotion.. — BD2412 T 22:25, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Vote closes: 23:00, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. 166.147.78.87 04:57, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * KeepVictorrrmz 22:23, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete and consider salting this re-created title until such time as an entry for this person may appear in a future edition of Bartlett's Familiar Quotations. ~ Ningauble 22:29, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete as nominator; no opposition to Userfication if the author so requests. BD2412 T 16:29, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I am not as sanguine about people who do not actually participate in the project using our project's user-space like Myspace or Facebook. In this case, the user seems to be interested in self expression rather than quoting others; and I am skeptical that he has really got the spirit of quoting others, with credit where credit is due, when he claims a famous 16th century woodcut as his own copyrighted work of authorship at Commons. The situation would be somewhat different if the user were an actual quoter. ~ Ningauble 16:37, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I left a note on the user's talk page offering userfication "if you're interested in doing additional work on this project". The question of what can appear on the user page of a potentially productive user is very different from the question of what we can host in our mainspace. If he agrees to userfication, we can revisit the content at a later time to see if he has engaged in content work that justifies him having whatever he chooses to have on a user page. BD2412 T 19:56, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It is indeed a different question, and can be addressed separately if that eventuates. Offering encouragement to newcomers who display an interest in quotations is a Good Thing™, but when someone shows up with an entirely different agenda, egging them on is less likely to be beneficial. ~ Ningauble 18:44, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not trying to egg him on; based on his late addition of userboxes, I think he genuinely intends this to be a user page, and might be persuaded to contribute positively to this project. BD2412 T 18:48, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * One can always hope. I am afraid I have beed feeling a bit cranky lately, but it will pass. ~ Ningauble 18:57, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - non-notable. --A Divine 05:47, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom. ~ UDScott 18:49, 28 November 2011 (UTC)