Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Warren Peugh

~ Jeff Q (talk) 15:31, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Warren Peugh
No apparent notability of subject. No 'pedia page, a handful of Google hits. — BD2412 T 17:51, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Vote closes: 18:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. I originally proposed this for speedy, and the anonymous editor 205.56.145.34 removed the and enlarged the article, including a link to a non-existent WP article. BD2412 prod'd it, then changed his mind and VFD'd it, and 205.56.145.34 again removed that notification. As much as I appreciate Lcpl Peugh's contribution in Iraq, I fear that does not make him notable for WQ purposes, and his lack of notability will certainly mean that no reputable printed sources for his quotations exist. --Ubiquity 18:59, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * For clarification, I saw that a previous deletion tag had been removed by the poster, and figured that prod'ing it would yield the same result, so I brought it straight here for a definitive response. Cheers! BD2412 T 19:52, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. - InvisibleSun 23:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete We can't use blogs as sources.--Cato 23:09, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep BD2412edited yours post Warren Peugh is a Lcpl or E3 not a E1 Pvt as you posted. Cato the sources are archives of a reputable printed sources not blogs. Invisiblesun's post was removed because he didn’t post and background on his reason. Warren Peugh 10:00, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The above post was made by in 3 parts on 20 November 2007, and links to a non-existent WP page. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. This entry does not meet the inclusion criteria for Wikiquote...robust, remarkable quotes from reliable sources on a notable topic. IMO, any attempt to bend the criteria to include this entry will likely cause more problems than it solves...so the best course of action is to delete. FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 12:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, removal of delete tag and possible COI -- Herby talk thyme 12:39, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Is it in order for Warren Peugh or whoever to delete Invisiblesun's vote? None of my business, just asking.--85.95.96.241 12:43, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete No doubt a worthy individual, but scarcely notable and his supporters do litle for his case. Poetlister 22:56, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ UDScott 17:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * KEEP ~ Delete it if you want one day I’ll have a post on here you have my word on it. Have a great thanksgiving "Marines do more before breakfast then you do all day" I wish you all the best of luck. No clue what time it is where you’re at. Signed Warren Peugh serving overseas far from home. 21 November 2007 (UTC).
 * Struck duplicate vote by 205.56.145.34. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete unless notability evidence provided and quotes reliably sourced, per Wikiquote and Wikimedia guidelines. That's my standard, official position. On top of that, however, I might push for speedy delete, unremarkable subject (not "unworthy", just not "famous") if possible. I am concerned about a twist on Quotes of living persons — allowing rank-and-file military personnel actively serving in combat zones to post personal information that might be used against them, whether by an enemy, a scammer, or even their own service if they say something unwise. I have tremendous respect for those who choose to serve their nation in this most dangerous way, but I fear that many young soldiers, sailors, and fliers fail to realize just how much danger they put themselves and their families in by announcing who and where they are. (Mindful of the personal physical danger they're in, they may not consider that there are plenty of malicious people and organizations that sift through websites like Wikiquote for just such information to build their scams, and they don't have the time, the opportunity, or the lawyers like celebrities and other notables do to help extract them from consequent disasters. I don't wish to sound like an uninvited nanny for these adults, but I also believe Wikiquote has an interest in making swift decisions based on WQ:QLP, countering the obvious reluctance we'd have to delete articles about servicemen and women who nonetheless have little chance of passing the notability threshold.) I would have preferred to discuss this with our anon editor offline, but the lack of a registered username makes this impossible. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:32, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. After re-reading the intro, I realize that Peugh appears to no longer be in a combat zone, so my greatest concern is probably unnecesssary (for now). But the greater problem remains. "Blogging home" is a phenomenon of modern warfare. As long as Wikiquote demands notability and sourceability of its quote subjects through previous publication in reliable sources, and thus will not keep articles on military personnel unless they are quoted in major publications, I suggest we avoid being a venue for promoting/exposing private individuals in dangerous situations by acting swiftly on these cases. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:42, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. --Inesculent 20:36, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete I sympathise with the creators, but this fails the rules.--Yehudi 15:11, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete--Jusjih 01:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)