Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Zen proverbs


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: keep. BD2412 T 02:56, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Zen proverbs
This page does not serve any purpose. — Spannerjam (talk) 20:11, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Vote closes: 21:00, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I think that a page on Zen proverbs is perfectly sensible in principle. However, of the two entries currently on the page, the second is clearly not a proverb and I am not sure about the first.--Collingwood (talk) 22:28, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I agree with the opinion expressed by Collingwood : a page on Zen proverbs is perfectly sensible in principle. I would further note that a Zen proverb is not necessarily an exact analogue to a "proverb" as it is commonly thought of in Western culture. To help better explain at least part of what I'm trying to say, here is a snippet of text from the Wikipedia article on Zen: "A kōan, literally 'public case', is a story or dialogue, describing an interaction between a Zen master and a student. These anecdotes give a demonstration of the master's insight. Koans emphasize the non-conceptional insight that the Buddhist teachings are pointing to. Koans can be used to provoke the 'great doubt', and test a student's progress in Zen practice." Here are a few "Zen proverbs" that more closely resemble the Western model:
 * "When the pupil is ready, a teacher will appear."
 * "No snowflake ever falls in the wrong place."
 * "When you reach the top of the mountain, keep climbing."
 * I would like to suggest that, at the very least, this proposal for deletion deserves more space for consideration than one week. FWIW, I'm stopping here, not because I think there's no more to say, but only in the interest of brevity. My two cents. CononOfSamos (talk) 05:28, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
 * That is very interesting. Maybe the page should be re-named.--Collingwood (talk) 13:23, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I have added the second two. The first one seems not to be specifically a Zen proverb.--Collingwood (talk) 13:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - it seems fine now that some changes have been made to the page. ~ UDScott (talk) 15:50, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - Page needs substantial improvement, but topic is worthwhile, there is plenty of of material which could be included, and it apears to have generated some interest (see the associated Talk page regarding last two points). CononOfSamos (talk) 18:02, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. This nomination does not serve any purpose. ~ Ningauble (talk) 15:40, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. The vote above me does not serve any purpose, since he who voted oviously has not done any research. --Spannerjam (talk) 08:16, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, the sound of the other hand clapping. Perhaps this can be closed as Mu, since the original nominator has voted to keep the article. ~ Ningauble (talk) 15:59, 29 November 2012 (UTC)