Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/A speech made by The Prince of Wales at a Business Lunch in Mumbai held with members of the business community, A speech for the opening of the Pembrokeshire Meat Company Abattoir


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The result was: Deleted. — Jeffq 07:17, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

A speech made by The Prince of Wales at a Business Lunch in Mumbai held with members of the business community, A speech for the opening of the Pembrokeshire Meat Company Abattoir
And also A Time to Heal by HRH The Prince of Wales, A speech to open the second Prince of Wales Education Summer School

All of them were transwikied. Former I thought it were better for us to keep it, but now I change my mind. We have already Transwiki log. If necessary, we can keep record on the transwiki log, and of course on Wikisource. --Aphaia 8 July 2005 03:04 (UTC)
 * Vote closed. Result: Deleted (3 Deletes; no dissent; apparent enthusiastic consensus to delete all completed transwikis). ~ Jeff Q (talk) 07:17, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I have completed the deletion of all cited speech articles after confirming they have been properly logged and transferred to Wikisource. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 22:35, 29 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete:--Aphaia 8 July 2005 03:04 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 8 July 2005 05:44 (UTC)
 * Comment: What about A Tryst With Destiny? ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 8 July 2005 05:44 (UTC)
 * Comment: Others which might be deleted with same rationale: MacArthur's farewell speech to Congress, MacArthur's farewell speech to West Point ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 8 July 2005 06:45 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think they are just with the same rationales. And we have already deleted one former transwikied article, if I recall correctly. --Aphaia 8 July 2005 07:00 (UTC)
 * Comment: Another one for the list: I have a Dream ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 8 July 2005 08:14 (UTC)
 * Comment: yet another: Installation Speech (Adrienne Clarkson) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 8 July 2005 09:31 (UTC)
 * Comment: "Tuez-les tous; Dieu reconnaitra les siens." ("Kill them all; for (wikisource) knoweth them that are His.") [after Arnaud-Amaury, Abbot of Citeaux, 1209, when asked by the Crusaders what to do with the citizens of Beziers who were a mixture of Catholics and Cathars. See Albigensian Crusade for this story] ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 8 July 2005 07:13 (UTC)
 * Comment: We are better to reorganize this request? I thought it would be better to review some of them and go ahead gradually, but there are at least ten similar pages (and perhaps more). See Special:Ancientpages #15-#32.--Aphaia 8 July 2005 08:20 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'd like to do them all in one go, and forget about it. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 8 July 2005 09:31 (UTC)
 * Speech to the Troops at Tilbury, The Gettysburg Address, Whiskey Speech too ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 8 July 2005 12:10 (UTC)
 * Delete them all. Okay, folks, this is getting ridiculous. This is our third attempt in a few months to delete articles against transwiki policy, and yet no one has discussed this issue where policy could be changed — Help talk:Transwiki or Category talk:Transwiki — except myself and Rmhermen. Therefore, I will take a "delete" consensus on this vote as an consensus to change Wikiquote policy to permit the speedy deletion of all transwikied articles, which defies Transwiki policy, but is in reality the common practice. Any objections may be raised at Help talk:Transwiki. — Jeff Q (talk) 00:34, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I think this speaks, more than anything, to the fact that I (at least, possibly others) were not even aware of this previous discussion. Thank you, Jeff, for pointing to that discussion. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 04:44, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: As I just noted at Help:Transwiki, my memory is faulty. Help:Transwiki (which I wrote — duh!) already includes a speedy-deletion step for articles that have been successfully transwikied. From now own, we can just delete them (without VfD) once the transwiki process has been completed. But we need to verify completion before deleting. Sorry about the confusion. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 09:25, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Untangling these transwikied articles is complicated. Virtually nobody is logging outgoing transwiki action as required. I have just verified and deleted every Wikisource-incoming article that was properly logged there and added logs entries for them here. Any blue links above have not been completely or properly transwikied yet, so please don't speedy-delete them. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 10:20, 23 July 2005 (UTC)


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