Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/B. Volkan Yucel


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: delete. —LrdChaos (talk) 18:08, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

B. Volkan Yucel
Not knowing Turkish, I have no way to figure out this person's notability based on the external links or on the thousands of Google hits. The Wikipedia page, created by the same user, would hardly even qualify as a stub and is not likely to last. Nor is this person's webpage any more useful for someone trying to see why this individual should have a page on English Wikiquote. - InvisibleSun 02:05, 22 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Vote closed. Result: delete (four votes to delete, no dissent). —LrdChaos (talk) 18:08, 7 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. I considered nominating this earlier, but I never had a chance to big around with some of the Google results. Of the 5 Google returns with an English language search, one is the supposed homepage, two are a mailing list, and the remaining two (which seem to be the same site, one with a .com address, the other .net) don't seem relevant at all. The large number of external links (which I had deleted earlier, since none are in English) don't help, and seem almost like some sort of linkspam. Expanding to an "all languages" search, there under 3,000 results, which is more than some notable people but fewer than most. The lack of English language results makes determining notability much harder, unless anyone around here happens to speak Turkish and can translate for us. The fact that the Wikipedia page was created by the same user as this Wikiquote page (and is no more helpful) does not bode well, either. Prior to this version of the page, it was created and deleted at least three times for not having any content beyond the people template (though perhaps the short quote was just lost in all of it). An above-average number of redirects were also created to point to this page. —LrdChaos (talk) 02:15, 22 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete unless editor shows at least a minimal interest in creating a decent English Wikiquote page and provides notability evidence. If I weren't so preoccupied at the moment with real-world matters, I would nominate the sub-stub Wikipedia article by the same user (entire current content: "B. Volkan Yucel (18 January 1978) Turkish writer.") for deletion. (I wouldn't even bother with prod-tagging it, as this editor seems quite likely to contest it.) A WP AfD would provide the best opportunity for (A) getting a wider perspective on this unidentified writer, possibly even from some Turkish Wikipedians; and (B) encourage this editor to give us something to work with. Other reasons to delete: (1) There doesn't appear to be any trace of this person in the U.S. Library of Congress, which lists 33 Yücels or Yucels, or in Amazon.com; (2) B. Volkan Yucel (Turkish WP's corresponding article) doesn't exist, and of the eight current distinct tr:WP articles with titles that contain "Yücel", not one of them appears to be this person. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 07:06, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * As I've just resolved my most pressing real-world matters, I've gone ahead and nominated the WP article for deletion as suggested above. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 23:43, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Update: The Wikipedia page has been deleted. —LrdChaos (talk) 16:07, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment: I've extended this vote for 1 week because it has been updated since its nomination with at least 1 sourced, translated quote. The subject is still inadequately identified, let alone shown to have notability, but the provided book information may help us resolve this problem. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 14:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know that the provided book information changes anything; the ISBN doesn't match anything at any of the book sources, which include Amazon and B&N. It seems like it's actually a published book, as the few Google results for the ISBN are mostly online stores selling it (none that I've heard of, though this may be related to all of them being in Turkish). The same holds true for the title; no results outside WQ for "Pop Licenses" and the same type of result as for ISBN when using "Pop Lisans" (which is the title used with the Turkish pages selling the book). —LrdChaos (talk) 15:30, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I went looking for the stated publisher, "Okuyan Us Press", and found a Turkish publisher, but I can't tell if this is a vanity press, because it's in Turkish, of course. It does have a page for Pop Lisans. But the sum of all this information so far doesn't even come close to a reasonable notability argument for inclusion in an English project (and maybe not even for a Turkish one). ~ Jeff Q (talk) 17:08, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm sure there would have been people who know Turkish literature on WP and they didn't spot him. The non-existence of the Turkish Wikipedia article is, I think, a giveaway. David | Talk 13:26, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. 121a0012 01:36, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.