Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Bill Randall


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: . Delete. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 23:19, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Bill Randall
This article, which provides no assertion of notability for its subject, has been speedy-deleted 3 times by two sysops (myself and LrdChaos), but new Wikiquotian keeps recreating it, so let's give it a proper hearing anyway. Cmderr also created an associate Wikipedia article, HMMGG Festival, which at first glance appears to be a potentially notable college art event, but when I looked into the links, I found what appears to be a rather juvenile bit of fun among a small group of art students. I've asked Cmderr to provide reliable sources for the information here, and made a similar request for the WP article on its talk page. If we don't get something more concrete than the minimal, restricted HMMGG website in a day or so, I'll probably AfD the WP article, too. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 01:44, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Vote closed: Result: Delete. No proper notability evidence was added. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 23:14, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete unless notability evidence provided and quotes properly sourced. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 01:44, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. - InvisibleSun 04:19, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. I had asked to stop creating the page until and unless they could provide some evidence of notability, and this was the response: "Bill Randall (b. 1964-) Wisconsin is a visual artist currently living in Minneapolis, MN. He is referenced in who's who in American Art and has participated in over 20 group art exhibitions in museums and private galleries in the U.S. and Canada. He also has had two solo museum exhibitions and is in the collection of the Renwick gallery, New Visions Gallery, and the Elmhurst Art Museum." This was added to the user's talk page (and also copied to mine), and was not added to the page. I don't believe that it conveys notability: "who's who" books don't count for anything, and there are a large number of museums and galleries in the country, so simply having an exhibition at a few doesn't really count for much either. —LrdChaos (talk) 13:51, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep He is an artist of note.  The collections that he is a part of are significant.  Granted, it's not a big deal if the quotes are not here.  I ran across them while researching an exhibition at the museum I currently work at, www.mgmoa.org is the web site, you can call my office directly at 405-878-5622.  The Festival mentioned on wickipedia is part of a growing trend among groups of artists to tie collaborative efforts together with input from diverse fields.  I hope to add one or two others to wickipedia (or have an intern make the additions), though the effort is frustrating enough that more traditional media outlets may be used.  Quite honestly, I can use the experience as a classroom demonstration in the point trying to be made.  Who is qualified to say it's art.  The fact that wickis are not vetted by professionals lends itself to allowing spurious information at the expense of the legitimate.  Interesting.
 * Despite the ease of editing, Wikimedia projects are not blogs or chat rooms. Each has a specific purpose in creating a robust publications in its genre, and takes very seriously questions of notability, verification of information, and sourcing. You would be doing your students (and yourself!) a disservice if you attempted to use this situation as a classroom experience without reading the relevant policy and other information on Wikiquote and Wikipedia. (Indeed, were I a student in such a class, I'm afraid I would find some amusement in embarrassing any instructor who failed to do his homework on his own lesson.) I can leave this to you to find as an exercise to the wiki student &#9786;, or I would be happy to provide you with links to this information if you don't have the time or desire to explore these fascinating projects without more specific guidance. Let me know here or on my talk page. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 18:12, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. ~ UDScott 17:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. 121a0012 03:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 15:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.