Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Bubb Rubb


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: Delete.. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 13:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Bubb Rubb
Is there anything really meaningful here? This sounds very much like an unnotable flash-in-the-pan to me. (Or at the very least, no longer notable.) The only quotations here seem to be taken directly from the one TV news story. 121a0012 05:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Vote closed: Result: Delete. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 13:25, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. These quotes make little or no sense out of context, which makes them unsuitable for a quotation page. - InvisibleSun 23:25, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, with only 1 meaningful quote ("The whistles go woo... woooo.", as reported by KRON-TV) for an "Internet phenomenon" adequately covered in Bubb Rubb. This is reminiscent of the question posed in the village pump about the BBC's Guy Goma/Guy Kewney interview mixup, which has apparently been much more widely and reliably reported. For the most part, the event is much more memorable than the line. One could make an argument for including the sole memorable quote in a theme article, if one could figure out what theme it might belong in. Short of that, I say just leave it to Wikipedia to address the phenomenon and include the quote.
 * Comment: For subject notability, this is one of those evolving grey areas. Just how much weight can we put into Google hits vs. an apparently near-complete absence of reliable sources? (So far, we have 1 news segment from 1 local TV station, and an unsourced, unspecific claim of a similar reference on MTV in w:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bubb Rubb, which resulted in a "keep" decision.) Between the current WP and WQ articles, we have the following cited sources (after I deleted the gratuitous "Bubb Rubb store" link in the WP article):
 * KRON-TV text of news segment — reliable, but local
 * ThatVideoSite video copy — user upload; not a reliable source
 * AdiumXtras.com video copy — user upload; not a reliable source
 * eBaum's World video copy — apparent editorial discrimination; Alexs rank ~800; may be reliable source
 * CNet Download.com video copy — not clear if any editorial oversight for these
 * All of these links besides the KRON article seemed to be based purely on the popularity of the video among web-savvy users who know how to promote videos through virtual word-of-mouth. I'm not sure Wikimedia has adequately addressed the meta-phenonmenon of notability through gossip, which is vastly more powerful on the Internet. For now, I fall back on the need for proper publication, as sites like YouTube and GoogleVideo (which the cited ones seem to want to emulate) have demonstrated how unreliable such information can be. (My favorite examples are all the upcoming movies, like Scary Mary (Poppins), Things I Hate About Commandments (as in The Ten Commandments), and Brokeback to the Future. I'm thinking about writing a WP article on "trailer spoof" if I can find some reliable sources for this'' phenomenon.) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 04:42, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. —LrdChaos (talk) 15:22, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


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