Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Commentary on Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: delete. —LrdChaos (talk) 14:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Commentary on Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid
Much like the case of Fernando Alonso (post-archiving link), this page contains no quotes that are actually from the main subject (in this case, Carter's book Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid) and instead contains solely quotes from other people talking about it. While I think it's find to include a few such quotes as part of a larger page about the specific person or work, I strongly feel that such things should not be the only content of a page, or in this case, the subject of a separate page (for a book we don't have anything from). In this case, the page amounts to an incredibly highly-specific theme page; the closest analog I could find here is Nepenthes rajah, a page for a specific plant species. I think that this new page is even more specific than that, confined to talking about a single book, and not even the larger issue (the subject of the book). Very little, if any, of the content is likely to be considered important by most people after a few months; while the reaction to the book has been strong, I don't think that it's going to be remembered in history as starting any sort of movement, and before long it'll just be another book written by an ex-U.S. President and none of this commentary will matter.

There is also the issue of a potential GFDL violation, in that the content for this page was copy/pasted from Wikipedia's w:Commentary on Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid, including (and especially) the portions of it that are not direct quotes. —LrdChaos (talk) 15:55, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Vote closed. Result: delete (seven votes to delete, no dissent). —LrdChaos (talk) 13:55, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. —LrdChaos (talk) 15:55, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, concur with LrdChaos. The only way I see the need for this is if a page is created with quotes from this work (in which case some of these quotes about it can be moved there). ~ UDScott 16:03, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: has now created Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid (is that even the correct capitalization?) which includes the content of this page under discussion.  This user has also expressed disinterest in fixing the new article to conform to Wikiquote standards.  121a0012 04:39, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * "This user...standards" is not correct. I have said that after having spent all this time constructing a new page to replace this one, I do not have time to convert the notes to Wikiquote source citation format.  Someone else or some other editors more familiar with Wikiquote style will have to do that.  I've done my part, I believe.  See the new page: the capitalization of the title is correct:  see Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid before posing such questions.  Answers to such a question may be found by reading that article and those linked to it, including the talk page (w/ 4 archives) and the talk pages of the related articles.  Re: "if a page is created with quotes from this work (in which case some of these quotes about it can be moved there)": I have now done that. I would like this page deleted in favor of the new page, which other editors can help to revise.--NYScholar 07:03, 18 January 2007 (UTC)  Hence:


 * Delete.(creator of this page)--NYScholar 07:05, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. - InvisibleSun 04:49, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as bad transwiki. Wikipedians, who outnumber Wikiquotians by at least 100 to 1, ought to learn the proper means to transwiki material, which was established at Wikipedia in the first place. If they don't have the time to follow GFDL requirements, they can hardly expect us to clean up the mess. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 00:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as violating GFDL license. If someone wants to correctly transwiki it then we can debate the merits of the article, but right now it's pretty much a moot point. Koweja 04:41, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Perhaps form a delegation to Wikipedia to tell transwiki'ers what exactly we are interested in and what we are not, because Wikiquote is not a book review site. Pithy single comments might be added to an article about the book (which concentrated on quotes from it) or possibly to Jimmy Carter. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 11:16, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.