Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Dylan Richardson and Gavin Wiggins


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: delete both. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 14:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Dylan Richardson and Gavin Wiggins
Google search for either name comes up with few results, none of them linking to their group, the June Corporation. The corporation also seems to lack notability. On Wikipedia, Dylan Richardson and the June Corporation have been deleted, with protection to prevent them being re-established. There is nothing on WP for Gavin Wiggins. - InvisibleSun 03:40, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Vote closed. Result: delete both (5 deletes; 1 keep from article creator whose only other edits are to this VfD; 5 discounted keeps from 71.226.112.249, 68.0.152.238, 24.221.144.23, Julianna, and 69.215.129.192, whose only contributions are to this VfD; no notability evidence provided). ~ Jeff Q (talk) 14:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete both. - InvisibleSun 03:40, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete both unless notability evidence provided, preferably with quote sources, too. There doesn't seem to be any WP AfD page for either "Dylan Richardson" or "June Corporation", suggesting repeated speedy deletions that led to the protected pages. (The protection logs for these articles  further suggest some disruption motivated the protection.) I found exactly 1 apparently related Google link for this Tucson-based June Corporation — a religious website where a single member records his "affliation" with this organization . Bottom line: these two 16-year-olds are incredibly unlikely to have made themselves notable enough for inclusion here.
 * P.S. Wikipedia apparently has no problems speedy-deleting these articles under their policy (which ours now closely parallels). Yet these people and this "corporation" have more of a Google presence (1 relevant hit for "tucson 'june corporation'", 2 for "tucson 'gavin wiggins'", 1 relevant one for "tucson 'dylan richardson'"  — compare the images in our article and in "Erin's" photo w/ "Dylan") than the complete non-presence of the fictional work Battle on Beta 9 mentioned in the character article Danya Gordin also under VfD. While a significant Google presence alone cannot be proof of notability, little or no presence is often an excellent indicator of non-notability. We could probably speedy-delete these Richardson and Wiggins articles, too. Our policy requires VfD listing because of the notability assertion, but I think we can vote for SD here (as Wikipedians do) when compelling evidence of non-notability is presented in the VfD discussion. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 06:48, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep This organization does exist. Although rather underground, as was intended by both Richardson and Wiggins, it is very much real, and therefore deserves what little notability it has. ---69.254.206.243 19:41, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete both. ~ UDScott 15:36, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep 71.226.112.249 00:34, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete both. —LrdChaos (talk) 20:12, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep 68.0.152.238 23:37, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep 24.221.144.23 23:44, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep
 * User's first edit. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 23:53, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete both. Two 15/16 year olds are astronomically unlikely to have founded anything of any importance. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 23:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep 69.215.129.192 03:44, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Note: 69.254.206.243 removed the Vote for Deletion tags on the Dylan Richardson and Gavin Wiggins pages. This person also added a statement to each page, declaring that it would be kept as a result of the voting.  Obviously this is based on the vote-stuffing ploy shown here, with six people voting to keep the pages despite the fact that five of these people have made no other contribution to Wikiquote except for this vote.  The Vote for Deletion tags have now been restored.  I note that I had neglected to post a closing time along with the original closing date.  Based on when the nomination was entered, I have now posted a closing time as well. - InvisibleSun 07:46, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * This incident, in which article creator 69.254.206.243 first changed the vfd tag in each article to vfd-kept, then quickly removed them completely, occurred three hours after the nominal close time. In closing this vote, I assumed good faith and treated it as a naive attempt to close a VfD based on an ignorance of Deletion policy. I counted 69.254.206.243's vote but added a caveat about their lack of general participation, because I didn't feel comfortable completely discounting a vote after an inappropriate action that we didn't notice in time to provide a warning about. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 14:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.