Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Greg Buk


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: delete. —LrdChaos (talk) 17:23, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Greg Buk
Not notable. Only a dozen Google hits on the name, most of which appear to be as the result of a message board signature. There's also no current Wikipedia page; Greg Buk has been speedy-deleted five times in the last two weeks, though it looks like one of those was promptly undone by an undelete, but then deleted again. &mdash;LrdChaos 12:53, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Vote closed: Result: delete (six votes to delete, no accepted votes to keep). I have discounted two of the votes in favor of deletion (220.233.88.131 and 58.106.5.108) and all eleven on the non-struck votes to keep (203.134.35.43, 203.134.35.77, 220.237.2.199, 144.131.120.100, 203.134.25.137, 203.134.35.168, 203.134.35.1, 210.8.110.36, 60.225.69.39, 58.106.3.34, and 60.241.117.48) as they are all from anonymous users whose contribution history is entirely or almost entirely edits to this VFD and the article in question. —LrdChaos (talk) 17:19, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Comment (not including action) 203.134.35.137 08:10, 4 September 2006 (UTC) He is write and you people should bow down to people power
 * Delete. &mdash;LrdChaos 12:53, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. ~ UDScott 17:28, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Additional info: not only has this subject been deleted as an article on Wikipedia, but there is now  a protection to prevent the article from being created again. - InvisibleSun 18:03, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I hadn't even noticed that (with the lowercase "b"); there were at least 19 deleted edits in "many" deletions for that version. &mdash;LrdChaos 18:26, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete. I wish to say that people have been taking advantage of Wikipedia and Wikiquote to make fun of me (Yes, my name is Greg Buk). I wish for this article to be deleted and have protection for it to never be created again. I am guessing that this is an excuse for plargarism. 220.233.88.131 21:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. ~
 * Struck incorrectly signed vote. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 00:10, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I have blanked the article per our informal practice of blanking libelous articles about unnotables under VfD. To forestall further mischief, I've also noted that we may block editors who attempt to restore this information to the article without justification and sourcing. Given the likely maturity level of the contributors, I doubt we'll see any meaningful rationale, if they respond at all. I also note that the two IPs contributing to this article thus far are both from dynamic ranges (apparently in Australia) that have given WP considerable trouble recently. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 00:16, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * These quotes I have placed on this website are commonly used on a school of 1000 students. This Greg Buk who has commented on this article is not one that I know, the Greg Buk we know supports this article and these quotes are used widely around the school, and are taken with good humour. I believe this article should be kept, as it is an important part of the identity of the school's culture, I beg you to not delete it and put all the information back.
 * The purpose of Wikiquote is to collect quotes from notable people and creative works, preferably citing reliable sources. The editors of this article have provided no reliable source for any of the quotes or claims made in the article or its talk page, and have not reliably identified the person being quoted, let alone shown that this is a notable person. Rather, it is suspected that this "Greg Buk" is a high-school student, and students are never considered notable for Wikimedia purposes without compelling notability evidence from published sources. The anonymous user posting the above comment has been blocked for 1 week after reposting the content to the article talk page, again without any sourced justification. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 03:01, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. 121a0012 03:05, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. ~ I believe that this article is important as Greg Buk is known as a local super-hero and his quotes increadibly popular among all who know him and are often used even among people who do not know Greg.
 * Struck incorrectly signed vote. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 06:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. 203.134.35.43 10:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC) This information is 100% true. i am an eye witness to what he has said. If u people actually met Greg u would agree that this is true. Greg is one of the local Superheroes who keeps his town going. He is crazy and the all the things he has said is true!!!!!!!!
 * It doesn't matter if there are 1000 people who claim to be "eyewitnesses" to a quote. Personal testimony is irrelevant. What we require is published information. If a person isn't sufficiently notable to have quotes published in some reliable form, they are not what Wikiquote is looking for. It doesn't mean that a person didn't say it, it just means that this is not something we include in this quote compendium. (By the way, thank you for signing properly.) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 11:40, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. 203.134.35.77 12:25, 2 September 2006 (UTC) Yes it does, because eyewitness information is the only type that is belivable thats why all Law Courts require eyewitness accounts
 * I shall make my justification clear: that I wish to remain non-notable whatsoever, and that these people are total idiots who wish to attract and tarnish the good reputation of our school. Not only that, it is probably an excuse to create stupid articles. 220.233.88.131 01:55, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. 220.237.2.199 08:14, 2 September 2006 (UTC) I am Greg Buk and I wish to inform you that I totally support the publishing of this page on Wikiquote. Please keep it as I am now seen as cool to my fellow peers and I varify all the information on the page.
 * We have no way of knowing whether 220.237.2.199, 220.233.88.131, or even I am Greg Buk. No amount of unsupported claims or ballot stuffing will change the fact that what matters is published verification of notability and sourcing of quotes. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 11:18, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. For God's sake. So your telling me that a high school student isn't excepted on wikipedia but an animated character (David Tench) in Australia was qualified to be put on wiki. Wikipedia is nothing less than a blog- get over yourselves.
 * The user "220.233.88.131" is not me, Greg Buk but is that of a guy at school called Jack Daniels who hates me having anything at anytime in any way, also the IP "220.233.88.131" is the IP of our school and is used by all computors on the school's network -
 * Keep. 203.134.35.137 07:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC) I personally have a published book with only Greg Buk's quotes. This proves that this is for real
 * Delete. Attack page, and the sockpuppetry here is really just more evidence. David | Talk 21:06, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. I beleive this article is complety legit, i have heard of Greg buk before and he is a very good and popular man. In my travels across the world i have heard of him more than once.
 * Struck unsigned vote from . ~ Jeff Q (talk) 05:02, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * The IP 220.233.88.131 is not me, greg buk and there is not sock puupertry going on, just me on differant IPsJaGuar 0041 09:30, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete: It is abundantly clear that the activity related to this page and the one at Wikipedia is but the irresponsible whim of a few schoolchildren, or perhaps just one, and has no place here. ~ Kalki 20:26, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. 203.134.35.168 11:15, 9 September 2006 (UTC) Jeff Q has a page on wikiquote yet has no published sources to varify the information. Why is that different? Why souldn't Jeff Q be put up for deletion? This is very hippercritical.
 * I'm not sure why I'm bothering, but I'll try to explain. User pages are intended to be about Wikiquote users. They are significantly different from articles, which must be about notable subjects. Users are allowed and even encouraged to say something about themselves and their interests, to help readers know about them. They are not a formal part of the quote compendium. But even user pages have restrictions that apply to all content in Wikimedia projects, like not using them for personal attacks, libel, copyright violations, commercial enterprises, blogs, or any other non-project purpose. JaGuar 0041, for example, is entitled to a user page as a registered user, but he chose to post this kind of material on his user page, so it was removed. This is not hypocritical, it is Wikiquote (and Wikimedia) policy. We welcome participation from both registered and anonymous users, but they must adhere to the policies and practices of Wikiquote, which is true for any website. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 15:02, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Now i have seen gerg buk in the street and he was followed by FLOCKS of people asking him to say things because they have alot of depth and such! I cannot see WHY we cant have a qikiquote on such a notable person as Greg!
 * Struck yet another unsigned vote. My opinion of the students from this school is decreasing with every failure to follow policy or to show the slightest comprehension of the points we've tried to make above. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 01:26, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. 203.134.35.1 11:25, 10 September 2006 (UTC) I think wikiquote should put this page up so many people can have a good look at it and then more people can make their minds up about it. Then people power can provail.


 * Keep Greg buk is quite possibily the greatest man of our time. We must rise against the oppresors and fight for the life of this article, we will stand tall. We will fight Jeff Q! We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in Wikipedia, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Greg Buk wikiquote page, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Greg Buk page or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the Greg Buk Page Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the Greg Buk Page. 210.8.110.36 23:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep. 60.225.69.39 09:09, 12 September 2006 (UTC) Greg buk (aka Gregorius Bukus; General G-man; Jaguar_0041 (NOT the original)) is a local superhero in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney, Australia. To many people he is much more than a legend, he is a lifesaver that is even more powerful in his own ways than superman. He is a great person and to delete this page is a complete mockery of every anti-predjudice thing he stands for (except for parking inspectors and indian telemarketers). If there is anyone who would like to help the cause to save greg, call the wildlife society as he is one of the last of an endangered species, the Gregorius Bukus.
 * Oh, how I look forward to September 14. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 10:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep. 210.8.110.36 00:25, 13 September 2006 (UTC) Greg Buk is a legend in his own right. No one can take this away from him. Even after his deletion, his memory will live on forever. Long live Greg Buk!!!! p.s It is an outrage that the page was deleted and we will fight until we win!!!


 * Keep. 60.225.69.39 06:16, 13 September 2006 (UTC)Greg Buk is even more helpful to anyone in need than many people I know. He is very attractive aswell and I think JeffQ should stop all of the nonsensicle crap that he is putting on wikiquote. If I wasn't so sure that Greg Buk was straight I would swear he was even more attractive than I already think he is. Also, JeffQ IS A HIPOCRIT!!!! He stops valuable information from being allowed on wikiquote but does allow information that nobody cares about on his user page. I mean COME ON JeffQ, get over yourself.


 * Keep.58.106.3.34

Keep If any page should be kept it should be the page for the greatest Australian, nay human ever to speak modern english: Greg Buk 60.241.117.48 12:19, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete I wish to state the fact that two students today were suspended at the school where this page is coming out of. They were suspended for creating pages on wikipedia and spreading inflammitory comments about fellow students. If you wish to be one of these students, continue to write more comments. However, I advise you, such bullying can warrant police involvement and school action. Do not for one second think that teachers don't know about this; they do. I hope that involvement by the school or headmaster doesn't need to be taken. Maristadmin 2:00, 13 September 2006
 * NB the above contribution, although signed by Maristadmin, was actually made by . David | Talk 08:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Struck the above vote. We have zero tolerance for forged votes. I will post a note to both newly registered users' pages. I have serious doubts as to whether either of these folks (assuming they aren't the same person) have any intent to contribute to Wikiquote, given John's forgery and Maristadmin's username, which may be intended to imply authority. Just like all the anon voters here, neither has done anything outside of this article and their user pages. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 08:44, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete 2 kids from out school were suspended so like yeah, it was a hoax, so just delete it....
 * Keep. 231.8.150.3608:53, 14 September 2006 (UTC) Come on Jeffery
 * This signature was forged by User:203.134.35.73 - InvisibleSun 10:25, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I think we're just feeding the trolls at this point by reacting to these meaningless votes by different one-time IPs. In this case, "73" posted the vote, then changed it an hour later, twice, to completely different networks, apparently trying to see if we'd notice. At least one person using these addresses has already claimed to be editing using different addresses, so I think this has just become another game for bored children. I'd recommend to whoever closes this vote that they explicitly cite the total number of the votes to be dismissed because their editors did nothing but post votes and comments here and tweak the Buk article. (I'd prefer not to close it because of my significant involvement in this discussion. I'll be happy to archive it, though.) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 11:49, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it would be useful to point out at this time that the page "Bert Newton" is coplemtly irrelivent as he has never said anything memorable and it is also also increadibly racist and discriminative, if that page is kept then the page made about the great Greg should become an icon for a religion. while Bert Newton has said nothing memorable and doesnt deserve a quote page Greg Buk has proven to haave said amazingly memorable quotes which you will never forget for the rest of your life. 60.241.117.48 12:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.