Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Joe Benigno


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: . Delete. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 17:15, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Joe Benigno
Not notable enough for inclusion. I don't believe that hosting a radio show, even in the NYC market, on its own, makes someone notable. —LrdChaos (talk) 14:56, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Vote closed: Result: Delete. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 17:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. —LrdChaos (talk) 14:56, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * These quotes are brilliant. Leave them alone.  In the words of Joe Beningo, "You're an idiot for wanting to delete the quotes in the first place" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.151.134.202 (talk • contribs) 23:27, November 3, 2006  (UTC)
 * Undecided. Someone who has hosted a talk show for more than ten years on the number-one-billing radio station in the U.S. probably counts as notable.  I'm a bit dubious of some of the content here, and the article needs cleanup.  121a0012 05:28, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete unless quotes are better sourced and trimmed to something other than ordinary sports patter. I don't see how any of this blather can be considered useful for inclusion on Wikiquote. And unlike print publications, TV shows, films, and websites, I am unaware of any reasonable means to verify most radio programs (although I'm open to suggestions), making the cited sources inadequate. I suspect that trying to find quotes from this person in more reliable publications may help winnow down the material to something more useful and give us more of an argument for notability. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 17:36, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: Depends on what you mean by "most radio programs". Random talk shows like this, yes, you're pretty much up to the mercy of whomever may have airchecked a particular broadcast; the station probably recorded it as well, but would not have kept the recording more than a few days.  For modern prerecorded shows, there is almost always a recording available on the Web (although, as with BBC offerings, it may be withdrawn for legal reasons after a short period of time; by contrast, most NPR weekly shows are available forever, but some require payment of a small fee).  These are certainly verifiable in principle, subject to the usual caveats of non-professional transcription.  Other shows, of course, are regularly transcribed.  In this case, it's difficult to imagine how one could verify the quoted material.  (But by the same token, I don't want to put material such as this completely beyond the pale for Wikiquote purposes, particularly when many public figures prefer to appear on talk shows as opposed to being interviewed by actual journalists.)  121a0012 19:52, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, concur with Jeffq. ~ UDScott 22:01, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per Jeffq, but with the observation that really well known sports commentary does become sourced and citable. The famous commentary of Bjørge Lillelien, for example, has earned him notability on Wikipedia. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 23:08, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. - InvisibleSun 17:42, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.