Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/John A. Fentener Van Vlissingen


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The result was: . Delted. Essjay ( Talk  • Connect  ) 06:07, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

John A. Fentener Van Vlissingen
For such a notable businessman, these alleged quotations seem extraordinarily obscure. I searched for the first five and found nothing in Google but the page itself (with or without quotation marks). The Wikipedia article doesn't help much either (they read as if they were written by the same person, although I did not check the histories). 121a0012 04:31, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Vote closes: 05:00, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete, unless some evidence is provided that this guy said these things. What does the author think "Sourced" means? --Ubiquity 09:28, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete unless notability evidence provided and quotes properly sourced. Both the WQ and WP articles were created by Bookworm, ours on 10 Nov and WP's on 12 Nov. The book cited, The Art of Enterprise (ISBN 9090139958), does not exist in the U.S. Library of Congress (which isn't necessarily fatal for a Dutch author). But the Amazon.com record bears the marks of a record created by an Amazon merchant, not Amazon itself, and is a very flimsy one at that, containing no information other than the ISBN and the format. (I can do, and have done, a much better job creating Amazon.com catalog records.) "BCD Holdings", the publisher given in the wiki articles, is Van Vlissingen's corporate holding company, making this an ultra-vanity press. I suspect the quotes may be taken from the book, but just pasting them into an article without page numbers, especially when the presumed source is a $100 vanity-published book, is below any reasonable standard of verifiability. I have to say that, so far, the combined wiki material looks more like an advertisement for the guy than a serious effort to provide impartially-sourced biographical material. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 00:42, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, concur with above. ~ UDScott 14:03, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. I checked the ISBN with Special:Booksources, and while it shows up with "AddALL", the only results on that site are two Amazon listings. B&N doesn't seem to have any trace of it, which supports Jeff's supposition that the Amazon page was created by a third-party merchant and not Amazon. —LrdChaos (talk) 15:48, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. - InvisibleSun 18:58, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


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