Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Lasagna


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: . Keep. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 16:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Lasagna
All of the quotes on this page seem to only be connected to "lasagna" by mentioning it; none are actually about lasagana. —LrdChaos (talk) 14:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Vote closed. Result: keep (six votes to keep (two weak keeps), no dissent). —LrdChaos (talk) 15:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. —LrdChaos (talk) 14:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak keep with User:121a0012's trimmings. I still don't think that half of the quotes particularly belong there (Browning's quote and the palindrome), and I have my doubts about using Garfield as the base for any page that's not about the comic or films (which is not to say the quotes shouldn't be present, but they shouldn't be the anchor for the page), but that's something that can be resolved through editing. —LrdChaos (talk) 14:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per LrdChaos . Weak keep. Still don't entirely like it but having read the other contributions, perhaps it doesn't do that much damage. Fys. &#147;Ta fys aym&#148;. 20:01, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Seems like an unobjectional theme page, and I'd disagree with LrdChaos's assertion that "none [of the quotes] are actually about lasagna".  I think about half of what's there reasonably qualifies.  121a0012 03:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Out of curiosity, which of the quotes do you think are actually about lasagna, as opposed to being about something else while mentioning lasagna? —LrdChaos (talk) 14:18, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Whether they are about or only mention lasagna is irrelevant. Rmhermen 17:48, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Several of the quotations surely are open to the objection LrdChaos raises, but I would have said that the Browning and the two Garfields are about lasagna. Antiquary 19:15, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep on the grounds that at least some of the quotes are pertinent: e.g., the ones mentioned by Antiquary. As with other theme pages, some of these quotes or additional quotes can be rejected if deemed to be pointless.  It appears that there's not yet a consensus among us here as to how directly a quote has to relate to a theme. (For my part, I would favor direct relevancy, preventing a theme page from becoming a grab-all for quotes which merely mention a particular word.)  If the final vote is to keep this page, perhaps we should agree on what we want to keep; or should a vote on a theme page be an all-or-nothing matter? - InvisibleSun 01:54, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: I was bold and trimmed the article down to those entries I felt were reasonably related to the subject. That is how we normally deal with such issues as InvisibleSun raises, even during an active VFD.  121a0012 03:40, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Further comment: I thought a bit more about what InvisibleSun said, and I think it really comes down to the Principle of Least Astonishment: would someone looking for quotes related to (not necessarily about) a subject X be surprised by the presence or absence of a particular quotation? So Garfield, for example, should be there (even if you don't think the dialogue is about lasagna) because an ordinary user familiar with Garfield's fancy for the dish would expect to see them there.  If we don't decide along such lines, then we're fighting a losing battle to remove "irrelevant" quotes from the theme pages as new editors find them missing and add them back in.  121a0012 06:18, 11 November 2006 (UTC)


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