Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Otto Hoffman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: delete. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:34, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Otto Hoffman
Not notable. Google turns up around 18,000 hits for the name, but most of them are for an actor; once the terms "movie", "actor", and "filmography" are eliminated, there are only around 650. There's no Wikipedia page for this person, nor for the cited work (which turns up only 100 Google hits).


 * Vote closed. Result: delete (4 deletes; 2 keeps, 1 of which preferred creation of Macedonia theme article, which was done by sole content editor of this article). ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:34, 23 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. I expect that I'll be nominating several more of the pages created by within the next several weeks; there seem to be a lot of non-notable-looking people there. —LrdChaos (talk) 14:41, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, and yes I agree that many of 's recent creations are suspect people that just happen to have written or said something about Macedonia and may or may not be notable. ~ UDScott 14:52, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * First I have to apologise, correct spelling is Hoffmann, not Hoffman. I tried to correct spelling in the page but I don’t know how, please do it for me. Unfortunately Wikipedia doesn’t have an article on him, but he is very respected amongst linguists. He is mentioned in http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makedonische_Sprache. And ofcourse a new google search for linguist “Otto Hoffmann”  will come with more results.  Also amazon.com sells his book. Now about pages I've create, which of the people  “seem to be non-notable-looking there”? And if, according to you, there are any, that doesn’t mean that they -or their work- doesn’t exict and certainly that doesn’t make them “suspect”! Believe me, I am very aware of what I put here and reliability is very important for me. Sorry once more for the inconvenience. Macedonian 20:24, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * My aplogies for using the word "suspect," as I did not mean to demean these people or impugn their work. I merely meant that they may not meet the notability standards of wikiquote. They may certainly have written about the subject of Macedonia, but this in and of itself may not translate to the type of notability that is needed to have a page on wikiquote. ~ UDScott 20:51, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. He was Professor of something or other at Breslau University, and the author of a number of books on the Greek language and other philological subjects.  I grant you that being an academic isn't enough in itself to qualify a man as notable but this one seems to have been something of an authority on his subject. Antiquary 20:36, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, although it would have been far preferable, I think, to have a theme page for Macedonia than to have separate pages for all these historians.  - InvisibleSun 08:40, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete unless notability can be demonstrated. On this one, I'm leaning towards LrdChaos's assessment of Hoffmann's notability.  The theme page for Macedonia might be a much better place for a few good Hoffmann quotes. WIKISUPERFIXER 09:58, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: I have talked to and I believe he will be creating a theme page for Macedonia, to which he will move quotes from many of the people pages he has recently created (including this one and others that probably at some point would have been nominated for VFD). ~ UDScott 17:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, based on Macedonian's creation of theme article Macedonia to these quotes, and the relative obscurity of Otto Hoffmann in the English-speaking world. However, I'd be willing to reconsider this in light of more evidence of English-world notability. I do note that he has two (German) editions of  Makedonen, ihre Sprache und ihr Volkstum, as well as other (German) works, at the U.S. Library of Congress. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 01:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


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