Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Satchel Cohen


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: delete. — LrdChaos 18:04, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Satchel Cohen
It appears this is a hoax (see its AFD nomination on Wikipedia). User:Netsnipe requested that the page be speedy-deleted, but Wikipedia's patent nonsense page specifically says that hoaxes are not considered patent nonsense, and this are not speedy-deletable. &mdash;LrdChaos 15:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Vote closed. Result: delete (five votes to delete, no dissent). &mdash;LrdChaos 18:04, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete as a hoax. &mdash;LrdChaos 15:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: Hoaxes are classed as vandalism, and vandalism may be speedily deleted. JzG 15:22, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Please do not strike my sig. The above was a comment for information from a WP admin, not a vote. All the Wikipedia articles have now been rmeoved as "simple vandalism" (speedy G3). JzG 09:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The above two posts were made by . (We have no way of knowing whether you are the identified WP user, but your point about commenting is taken.) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 10:02, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * JzG was the admin on wikipedia who speedied the articles and blocked the sockpuppets. I think here we can use common sense and assume good faith that it is the same person and he is being helpful and informative. Tyrenius 17:02, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I hesitate generally to combine anon sig with a certain registered user on another project, so I'd like to think it anon's comment as usual: it could be hardly proven and the identification is not the matter of "assume good faith". Note that I don't say if it is impostoring or not; we will take his or her comment based on assuming good faith, but it isn't relevant principally who said that.
 * So I prefer to stroke "faked sigs" rather keep them, since I convince we shouldn't encourage anon editors to comment in such a manner. However I can accept a compromise to put a remark like JeffQ made.
 * As for the latter part of his second comment, I can't simply understand why he should input it. VfD is not a place to change policy at all and there is no reason a EN WP policy should instantly be appliable to other projects. I appreciate your information though, but feel the autonomy of our project threaten and ignored. Even on good faith, it could be still very annoyable. --Aphaia 05:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Hoax background on wikipedia NB Tyrenius is not the hoaxer! -- Tyrenius 15:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC) (first edit on wikiquote)
 * Not sure of the procedure here, but I thought I'd mention all the other articles in this batch have been speedy deleted on wikipedia via a creative interpretation of "blatant vandalism". Tyrenius 17:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. If even Wikipedia is having to interpret its rules loosely to SD a hoax, we, with our 2-year-older limited rules, are pretty much stuck with a VfD, I think. Google search currently shows only 4 hits for "Satchel Cohen", the first two of which are WP (now defunct) and WQ (soon to be so). I don't think this merits a blanking to avoid propagating the hoax during the VfD. In fact, watching Google hits in the next two weeks might make for an interesting case study in how quickly Wikiquote gets mirrored to other quote websites. (For reference, the other two currently are at HomestayFinder and Pessac Panthêres (French).) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 18:25, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Whether or not he is a hoax, he lacks notability. - InvisibleSun 12:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - Koweja 17:40, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. ~ UDScott 13:07, 9 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.