Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/The Secret Show


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: no consensus. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:10, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

The Secret Show
No particularly original, memorable or quotable bits here. —LrdChaos (talk) 15:13, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Vote closed. Result: no consensus (4 keeps; 4 deletes). Since notability isn't questioned, this seems more like an ordinary content dispute at this point. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:10, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. —LrdChaos (talk) 15:13, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Sorry, I just found it really funny. Or if it gets deleted do you have a BJAODN? If not, I propose starting one. Tyrenius 07:16, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe it's not exactly clear, but there is an actual show called The Secret Show. It's a BBC production and in the US, Cartoon Network is going to air some of the episodes. I'm a little confused by your vote alongside your comment; voting to keep seems that you acknowledge that it's a real show, but the BJAODN quote seems to imply that you think this might a joke or nonsense. From what I can tell the quotes are of the type you might find on the show, but that doesn't make them good Wikiquote material. As far as whether we should have BJAODN, I strongly feel that no, we should not. There's no need to encourage people to create such stuff. —LrdChaos (talk) 15:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Comment By the way we really want BJAODN? That is a question ... --Aphaia 10:07, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. - InvisibleSun 22:25, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: So that the entire Wikiquote community can follow this discussion, "BJAODN" is short for w:Wikipedia:Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense, a set of pages Wikipedia has kept for particularly memorable silliness it's collected over the years. And by the way, it's a good idea to provide links to stuff like this. One never knows who might join the discussion, or who might be intimidated from doing so because of inscrutable references. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 22:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I propose hereby for moving our discussion about raison d'etre of BJAODN on the English Wikiquote. Generally I love to have it on Wikipedia. I hate to have it on Wikinews. On Wikiquote I have no clear idea until today. Some of our community seem to have strong opinions. And perhaps it would be varied by person. And we would like to keep this discussion properly not among VfD archives in some days. So dear editors, how about moving this discussion to WQ:VP and stick here to the article itself? --Aphaia 07:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Copying relevant BJAODN posts to VP is fine by me, but I see no need to remove them from this discussion. However, I agree that we need to refocus on the article itself here. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 18:20, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete unless pithy, properly sourced quotes added. I've restructured and reformatted the article, removed the fairly inane quotes, and left a single amusing exchange under "Unidentified episode", although with the uncomfortably vague attributions of "Unidentified character". I'm hoping this will give interested editors some idea of what we need to improve this article. To this end, I also added a WQ link to The Secret Show. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 18:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops! Thanks to LrdChaos for restoring the vfd tag I accidentally deleted. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 21:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Cbrown1023 19:03, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - I haven't seen the show, but I added quotes from the toons at the website, a few links, and a "fluffy bunny" picture. ~ Fnord 13:05, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know what the heck the website material is — it looks more like a web game than anything else — but it's not quotes from the show that can be sourced to specific episodes. (I'm also not clear on how we would properly cite a "source" for a quote buried inside a Flash animation game.) I don't think this material will help this particular article. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 14:16, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The Secret Show™ website is the "official" site of a notable cartoon show, and uses animations of the main characters of the show. I think they qualify as quotes of the character just as much as a quote from any animated TV episode does. From the reviews I read it seems the "Fluffy Bunny Show" is a standard part of the show's opening. ~ Fnord 14:35, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. This appears to be legitimate WQ material for a notable television show.  I would like to see better citations for the material Fnord added, but other than that the page looks reasonable to me.  121a0012 03:57, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, now that the page has been improved, although ti could still use some cleanup and more sourced quotes. ~ UDScott 14:12, 29 January 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.