Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/User:SlawekP


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: Deleted. --Aphaia 08:00, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

User:SlawekP
The text on this page is confirmed as Polish and Polish Wikiquoter TOR gave his opinion to us (see my talk). Briefly, hence he suggested to delete this page. And I need to add, this is the sole editing from this account. --Aphaia 02:11, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The content is a religious sorts of quotes including Bible
 * At least one publisher is mentioned
 * Links seems to aim to increase google rank
 * It seems to violate Wikiquote policy "not personal website"
 * VOTE CLOSED: Deleted. (4 deletes, no dissent.)--Aphaia 08:00, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikiquote is not a hosting service.--Aphaia 02:11, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. en:Wikiquote can demand even user pages to be in English in order to determine appropriateness. This is a clear example of how non-English text can be used to subvert WQ standards (no personal webpage hosting) without the community being aware of it. It harms the legitimate use of other languages (e.g., original-language quotations with translations). &mdash; Jeff Q (talk) 04:38, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. en.wikiquote user pages should be in English. If, in addition to the English text, a user also wants to add a short comment in his first language, that might not be an issue, but other than that it should be in English because that's what appropriate for en.wikiquote, and also so that we could easily see whether he's using the page to host personal stuff, as opposed to wikiquote stuff, like in this case. Sams 08:01, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I humbly oppose your idea, Sams. English text on the user page is preferable and kind for other users. But I don't think it as must or mundatory. I have many accounts on various wikis whose languages I can't understand (mainly for interlang links) but there has been no problem. The point is in my opinion "if we allow advertisement on the user page" not "if we allow other language(s) than English on the user page". --Aphaia 15:01, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete (would look odd if I didn't support my own suggestion, right? ;)). As for the "should be in English" rule proposal I'm with Britty - no language-related constraints should be used to limit the freedom of a user to put whatever he/she wishes on his/her User page. As long as it doesn't violate any Wiki policies. This one does, and that's that. Don't look at the language, look at the meaning and the goal of the author. --TOR 16:18, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree with Aphaia and TOR in principle, but there are severe practical problems with non-English pages in en:Wikiquote. How can we tell if pages violate policy if we can't read them? We don't have the active multilingual eyeballs on en:Wikiquote. I respectfully suggest that finding such a page in Polish was exceedingly lucky. If we had 200,000+ readers, we could probably expect someone to bring such pages to our attention regularly, but I really doubt we have any idea whatsoever whether others are doing this. I'd rather craft a policy encouraging English use on en:Wikiquote user pages (without restricting them to English-only, of course) than getting into the business of monitoring user pages and then finding translators for non-English pages just to verify they're not violating policy (which they almost always wouldn't be). Our maintenance staff is stretched thin enough as it is. &mdash; Jeff Q (talk) 21:53, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I assumed that since a user pages shouldn't be a personal page but should be related to wikiquote, and since this is en.wikiquote, the conclusion is that a user page should be related to English:), or more strongly, should use English primarily. But it seems that I was wrong, and at least in principle everyone else disagrees... ok then, no problem... I agree with JeffQ that in practice we might have a significant problem, but if you prefer, we could wait and see whether this problem repeats itself, before trying to formulate a policy. Sams 23:48, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: your look to User:Aphaia/User page draft and comment will be appreciated. Also elaboration & copyediting ;-) --Aphaia 07:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.