Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Walter Muncaster


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: delete. — Jeffq 09:28, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Walter Muncaster
Not notable. ~ UDScott 18:54, 2 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Vote closed. Result: delete (4 Deletes; 2 Keeps; numerous unsigned anon and duplicate votes struck; no evidence provided of notability despite repeated requests). ~ Jeff Q (talk) 09:28, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, unless evidence of notability is presented. The only link shown on the page also appears to be spam. ~ UDScott 18:54, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Based on a heated discussion at w:Talk:IP address and a page from a site called GDSE (apparently a computer-game development site, but they seem to have left out the standard "who we are" and "contact us" links), this person seems to be an unnotable (and egregiously self-promoting) computer developer and artist. Since he seems to be a registered WQ user as well (User:0waldo), we could encourage him to join the rest of us unnotable editors and move this personal-quote page to his as-yet uncreated user page instead of having it deleted. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 00:49, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Keep it! I say keep it but then again, I'm partial to myself and all of my accomplishments in life. What is wrong with a heated discussion? Maybe we should all be limp, milk toast nerds - such a preferable model yes? JeffQ: I'm WAY more notable than you - think of me as your mentor.  UDScott: The standard lame ass excuse around here 'spam' - grow up.  0waldo 00:04, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * And where is your evidence of your notability, Walter? Anyone can say they're notable, but personal testimony isn't evidence. Prove me wrong and I'll change my mind (and my vote), as I have done in the past. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 01:12, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not here to prove that I'm 'notable'. Think about it. Someone says: hey dik, you're not notable, prove that you are to me... I'm not here to light my own fire or to blow into a vacuum. 0waldo 14:50, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Au contraire, mon ami. Your creation of a quote article about yourself is a de facto assertion that you are notable. MediaWiki Foundation projects were established to allow anyone with an Internet connection the ability to record encyclopedic, quotation, and other information about notable subjects. That is their purpose. They require evidence of the notability of their subjects, or the information is removed. If you do not understand this, you are missing the point of the projects. There are many other similar projects on the Internet that do provide a forum for people to write about themselves, regardless of their notability. This just isn't one of them. It's nothing personal, as your personal attacks against myself and others have been. There are editors here (not me) who have been written about in the established press, so they might be considered notable. If any should choose to create a quote article about themselves, their articles would still require evidence of notability. Of course, those editors typically have a long history of useful edits and follow Wikipedia civility guidelines, so they're less likely to have to do themselves, as other editors would probably help. You, on the other hand, have no history of edits other than those relating to your own cause, and seem to be going out of your way to insult the only people in the community who are interested in reviewing your article. To use your own oft-repeated phrase, spare me. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 22:06, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ Achilles † 16:15, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * cmd DELETE: "you" (along with your cardboard sword) :) 0waldo 16:27, 4 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. nonnotable self-promoter. jni 16:56, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * These quotations appear to be being made up on the spot, directly in Wikiquote. There is no evidence that these quotations, or indeed any quotations by this person, have been recorded (by anyone other than the subject xyrself) outside of Wikiquote.  Delete. Uncle G 17:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * So then, since you can't find your 'evidence' then reality with respect to the matter simply ceases to exist I suppose? Spare me. 0waldo 18:01, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why I'm bothering, but I'll try to explain this as well. In general, we follow Wikipedia's practices about sources. Per w:Wikipedia:Citing sources: "In general, even if you are writing from memory, you should actively search for authoritative references to cite." The burden of evidence is on the contributor, not on reviewers. (That, again, is how wikis work. Editors are expected to do their own research. They can leave the hard work to others, as often happens, but they must expect that it may not get done, leaving their contributions vulnerable to removal for being unsourced.) For notable quotees, citing publications of their works provides editors the ability to review and correct, enhancing Wikiquote's goal of accuracy. When editors review articles nominated for deletion, they often attempt to determine notability and find sources as a courtesy to the many editors who may not be familiar with WQ practices (which can be read starting with FAQ and Help:Contents). But they are not required to do the research; the only people with that onus are the editors interested in keeping the article. In this case, that's you, 0waldo. Complaining about our inability to find your supposed quotes in any reliable source is, again, not helping your case. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 22:26, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * JeffQ:I love the dig on -spare me-. Cute and simultaneously good! That was good. Really good and I truly commend you 4it! I'm the dog with mange in the corner getting kicked around by the A.K.C.s 0waldo 01:12, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: I have removed 0waldo's attempt to stack the deck on this VfD entry by adding multiple unsigned votes. They may have been meant whimsically, but we take VfDs very seriously, while 0waldo seems to be treating his experiences with Wikiquote as an extended joke. I have posted a warning on his talk page about the potential for being blocked if he continues to violate multiple WQ policies. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 05:42, 5 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Jeff, Commendations! Clinically curt comments concerning cynicism communicated to crass commentators at “cut-waldo-up-corral”. Was clearly a clever conscript! Consider casa to be:  “cadre of cranky commentators”, “clique community” consistently creating crap, croaking to collateral comrades at corral commuting censure. Communiqués of ‘civility’ / ‘clean communication’ cleverly commandeered from crummy editor’s “cardboard-sword” charisma: construing crusted creampuffs, au contraire, culinary clout consisting of clearly cheap con/come-on competition.  Consequently, considering canonizing myself (if considered conceivable) thru copious coconscious-comments and/or “contrived illegal castings” to change the call of the crappy ‘clique community’ and/or ‘comrade-cowards’ from a “can him” to a “consecrate him” consortium to clearly contrive a “plus Ca change”.  Since cancelled change is a not cannon to commiserate:  I cleverly cleaved with a comely chick and consequently coined the capricious caption to close, calling closely the conspicuously callous comment to cite:
 * “Milk-toast is for the mundane while gold coins are for the conquistadors”
 * Carefully consider correlative commendable cliché creative coined by creditable concierge/cohort comely-chick-cleaver; calling on all “crass commentators”, “clique community”,  “collateral comrades” for “conscription to canonization” on chapter
 * “Walter Muncaster, Artist 1953-” contrary to: cross-out, cut, censor, cast out and/or continual commuted confusion.
 * 0waldo 17:14, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Jeff, look brother, I'm really sorry to do this but you need a legitimate reason to suspend my privileges and I'm going to give you one, right here, right now :)
 * Delete . Notorious gangster/thug.
 * Delete . Combination toaster and/or bent kitchen utensil! Delete him before he spreads butter all over the place!
 * Delete . Look can't somebody stop this communist sympathizer? Delete him, his uncle and aunt before they get a pen for GOD's sake!
 * Delete . He is just a total bum seeking notoriety, fortune and fame! AXE HIM!
 * Delete . Tom Petty: I say that he is "a rebel without a clue" delete him!
 * Delete . A sock puppet commandeer he is - get rid of him!
 * Delete . He's been huffing too much auto paint. put him out of his misery!
 * OK, that should be enough reason to ban me!!! Seven illegally cast votes all in favor of keeping me none the less! Caught in the act of voting fraud! 0waldo 18:17, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Struck out all unsigned, undated votes from 0waldo, who has already voted and doesn't really seem to want to change his original Keep vote. Also partially granted his wish by blocking him for 1 week. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 21:55, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
 * KEEP Keep Walter's page of quotes. SIGNED Joan Muncaster. ( please don't delete my vote again - I am entitled to vote ).
 * KEEP! KEEP! KEEP! KEEP! We have seen others' pages that could be deleted BUT NOT WALTER'S! And yes his quotes are notable! signed, Madeline, Sean, Phillip, and Rebecca Tatum.
 * Reformatted and struck more unsigned, undated anonymous votes. Please read the sections titled "Requesting deletions" and "Voting on deletions" at the top of this page for explanations of what constitutes a proper vote. (Please also note that the very first section instructs editors of this page to read this information before editing. There's only so much hand-holding other WQ editors can do for you.) None of these votes have been proper, which is why they have been and will continue to be struck. Repeated refusal to follow Wikiquote policy will result in temporary blocks. Collective attempts to use blocks of IP addresses to avoid blocking may result in a range block and a report to your Internet service provider. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 06:25, 10 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep Maddy 13:03, 12 January 2006 (UTC)I think Walter's page should be KEPT as I stated before. Personally I think his quotes are too notable for this penny anty site. And if one is to register then you should remove the sentence that it is not necessary to register at the top right hand part of the page on the login/register tab.It also appears to me that you have some personal agenda against Walter and that perhaps you are emasculated by him...just an observation.I guess you are going to revoke my hall pass now?


 * KEEP .JeffQ!!!
 * [NOTE: image irrelevant to vote removed ~ Jeff Q (talk)]
 * I vote to keep myself! (I know, again, sorry but I can't help it!). While in exile, I spent much time reflecting and came up with this personal work of art, just for you - I sincerely hope you and the others like it as much as I do (this is just a small clip from the 1200x1200 pixel version I painted that took six hours)! 0waldo 17:41, 15 January 2006 (UTC) Remember! NO BALLOT STUFFING!
 * Illegal duplicate vote struck. (I'm flattered, however, to be the subject of an 0waldo original.) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 20:56, 15 January 2006 (UTC)


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