Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Xanana Gusmão


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: delete. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 08:49, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Xanana Gusmão
Although this article was proposed for Speedy Deletion because it is not even about its subject, my own take is that this is supposed to be something said or written by Gusmão himself. If so, there is a potential copyvio problem based on its length. Gusmão already has a speech in Wikisource; perhaps this would go there, too, if it passed the copyright test and could be verified (I entered some of its phrases into Google and got nothing). - InvisibleSun 00:32, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Vote closed. Result: delete (5 deletes, incl. 1 implicit; no dissent posted here; no changes made to article or information provided). ~ Jeff Q (talk) 08:49, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete unless the speech is identified and dated AND one of two other things happens: (1) the article is trimmed to only a few select quotes from the speech, possibly adding quotes from other speeches (a reasonable "people" article); (2) sourced evidence (not just arguments from editors) that this is not protected by copyright is provided, in which case the article should be transwikied under the speech name to Wikisource. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 02:37, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. 121a0012 03:12, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete unless improvements are made, per Jeffq. —LrdChaos (talk) 18:31, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, concur with Jeffq. ~ UDScott 20:00, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment: The following text was posted on the article's talk page. I include it here so it is not lost when the article and its talk page are deleted.
 * You can't possibly justify deleting this page, it's brilliant - utter genius I tell you!!
 * It is not the quality of the material that is in question. This article appears to violate an essential principle of Wikiquote: we quote only brief, pithy excerpts of works, not entire speeches. Furthermore, the alleged quote has no source, and in fact isn't even identified, so editors have no straightforward means to verify its accuracy, AND we have no information on whether its inclusion here is a copyright violation. These are all critical considerations for any material quoted at Wikiquote, and failure to resolve the problems identfied will result in the article's deletion. Concerned readers are invited to discuss how to resolve them at the deletion discussion. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 02:44, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.