Wikiquote talk:Votes for deletion/Aram Sargsyan

should I even bother?
I am not sure how wise it is for me to do what I am doing now but I feel I have to give it a try. This particular VFD is the closest I have seen to illustrate what is wrong with the system, not only here, but also at big brother. I am an inclusionist in a land of deletionists, so I have to steel myself against the onslaught that will surely follow, but I just cannot bite my tongue anymore.

This VFD is a typical case of a nominator who proposes a page for deletion simply because they prefer not to take the required time to have a perfectly good page repaired instead of deleted. Everyone agrees that the subject is notable, and no one is arguing against the quotes, but in this case there is a question about the correct identity of the subject. The nominator agrees that it was possible to fix the problem through means other than deletion, but says he could not find the time to do it. But what about the time other wikiquotientians have  spent building this page? Without checking I will bet that it took the creator a lot more time to build this article than it took the nominator to attempt deletion.

Do we really want to antagonize and possibly drive away those of us who prefer to spend their time building content instead of talking about it?

And, yes @User:Djm-leighpark, I know you have done  excellent and much needed work on WQ recently, but will you stick around once the glamour is gone like @User:UDScott and User:Chongkian have done for years?

This article is one of the lucky ones that will probably survive (because an admin voted Keep), many others in the VFD-queue will not. We will continue to have the same 2-3 users vote to delete, and an admin will continue to mindlessly follow these few votes (they are usually votes, not reasoned rationale from users who know how much work it takes to build pages).

Note to self: in the time it took me to write this I could have done a lot of useful content work. Ottawahitech (talk) 14:20, 5 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Agree to Ottawahitech. My 99.99% of time spent in Wikiquote is to create new articles from confirmed-notable figures from online sources, which are right away available for viewers to click & it is not paywall-restricted, also to create new categories once a particular nationality or occupations get more populated, and also to link them to Wikidata for both pages and categories & put links to other inter-Wiki projects in their pages (these doesn't take a mere few minutes to do so, but hours and hours over the past few years). And I may not have the time to really check until that detail for 1 particular quote in terms of information consistency or cross-checking. In Wikipedia, this shall be tagged with something like 'please check' or 'please verify' kind of thing, but not tag for deletion. And as a rule of thumb, the more works someone does, the more mistake he/she will make. So I guess it is very natural from all new pages of Wikiquote I have created so far (607 new pages as of today), there will be more and more mistake committed as more new pages created, and that's a very normal natural statistics - if I can put it this way. Chongkian (talk) 00:44, 6 January 2023 (UTC)