Wikiquote talk:Votes for deletion/Leonid S. Sukhorukov

I see that you have deleted Leonid S Sukhorukov from Wiki from what appears to be an ignorant assumption that because his works have not been published in the West in any volme that he is not worthy of inclusion. It is my understanding that his works in aphorisms were at one time when the Soviet Communism State was at its most secure that his works were read daily by many millians of readers over the years and indeed he was one of the main contributors of humour to the Soviet people through his work in Krokodil when there was little to smile about. Does Wiki have people who contribute from the East or is this marginalisation of a major social contibutor for social well being simply allowing its pages to be dictated to by contributors who have never been in or set foot in the former Soviet Union states? Ask any semi-intellectual person between the ages of 40yrs old and 60 years from the former Soviet Union who Leonid s Sukhorukov is and you might be surprised to know that most know the answer. If indeed he did place the entry himself in Wiki it does not diminish his intellectual contribution since many do this for commercial recognition but few of us represent their country on the International Human Rights Committee or have the respect of a population that although still in the Internet dark ages in many places still covers a quarter of the real globe. Your removal Wiki was a mistake and you should check it out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.12.119.87 (talk • contribs) 13:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


 * While I appreciate your concern, we need more than your testimony. No participant in this discussion found enough specific, citable evidence to suggest that Sukhorukov was notable within the English-speaking world, which is the community that English Wikiquote serves. Wikipedia also found Sukhorukov too obscure in this domain for an article. However, that is not necessarily a permanent condition. I see that there are articles in Russian Wikiquote (ru:Леонид Семёнович Сухоруков) and Wikipedia (Сухоруков, Леонид Семёнович) for Sukhorukov, which is a start. Better documentation of Sukhorukov's life and activities, including proper reference citations, written in English, and possibly based on material found in the ru:WP article, could make a case for the en:WP article, which might then encourage Wikiquotians here to allow English translations of his works. Please note that this will be an uphill battle if none of this documentation is in English. I would expect Russian Wikiquote and Wikipedia not to be interested in articles about many of the people, places, works, and events that find their way into the English versions for the very same reason. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 07:55, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Wallpapering theme pages
Subsequent to this vote to delete, at which time quotes attributed to this person were removed from numerous theme articles, some single purpose IP contributor(s), operating over a period of many months, added more Sukhorukov quotespam to no less than 80 theme pages, reproducing more than 20% of his self-published book of aphorisms. Unless someone presents good reason not to, I will begin removing all of them shortly. ~ Ningauble 15:02, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * After posting notice at the Village Pump for 48 hours, and hearing no objection, I have done so. ~ Ningauble 18:05, 23 July 2010 (UTC)